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USSR had implemented this idea and it worked fine while factories / companies were providing accommodation in the walking distance along with all the necessary

by egao1980 4y ago

USSR had implemented this idea and it worked fine while factories / companies were providing accommodation in the walking distance along with all the necessary services - schools, hospitals, kindergartens and shops. I doubt that it would work in a modern Capitalist society unless we all work from home.

qaq 4y ago
As most anything else it did not work in USSR either for the most part.
ETH_start 4y ago
USSR had chronic shortages in basic consumer goods like toilet paper, steadily fell behind the West in emerging technologies like semiconductors, and eventually went bankrupt [1], so I don't think you could describe anything in its centrally planned economy. Japan has many highly mixed neighorhoods, but unlike in the Soviet example, they emerge organically, because zoning restrictions are lax. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/28/world/big-soviet-budget-deficits-are-disclosed-by-kremlin-wasteful-subsidies-blamed.html https://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/28/world/big-soviet-budget-d...
Barrin92 4y ago
I'm confused, are you insinuating that Barcelona isn't real or not part of a modern capitalist society? These superblocks already exist in the city. This urban design has been around longer than the USSR. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eixample https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eixample
- egao1980 4y ago
  Barcelona's blocks are nice but won't work as a mostly pedestrian self contained urban unit. People have to work and get social services outside those blocks. If you scale them up a bit, add infrastructure, add workplaces and make it 10-15 walking distance and add public transit links to other such places that will do it.
TulliusCicero 4y ago
> USSR had implemented this idea Press [X] to doubt Do you have any source that the USSR had superblocks like this?
- brabarossa 4y ago
  They are called Microdistricts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdistrict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdistrict Examples: https://imgur.com/a/lxgdEpM https://imgur.com/a/lxgdEpM
  - TulliusCicero 4y ago
    Not seeing a lot of evidence that this is similar? For example, the sections without roads don't necessarily look easily permeable to walk/bike traffic, which is a relatively defining trait. Edit: well, in some sense yeah it's a huge block and thus a super block, but in terms of Barcelona-style super blocks with similar aims...

qaq 4y ago

As most anything else it did not work in USSR either for the most part.

ETH_start 4y ago

USSR had chronic shortages in basic consumer goods like toilet paper, steadily fell behind the West in emerging technologies like semiconductors, and eventually went bankrupt [1], so I don't think you could describe anything in its centrally planned economy. Japan has many highly mixed neighorhoods, but unlike in the Soviet example, they emerge organically, because zoning restrictions are lax. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/28/world/big-soviet-budget-deficits-are-disclosed-by-kremlin-wasteful-subsidies-blamed.html https://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/28/world/big-soviet-budget-d...

Barrin92 4y ago

I'm confused, are you insinuating that Barcelona isn't real or not part of a modern capitalist society? These superblocks already exist in the city. This urban design has been around longer than the USSR. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eixample https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eixample

egao1980 4y ago
Barcelona's blocks are nice but won't work as a mostly pedestrian self contained urban unit. People have to work and get social services outside those blocks. If you scale them up a bit, add infrastructure, add workplaces and make it 10-15 walking distance and add public transit links to other such places that will do it.

TulliusCicero 4y ago

> USSR had implemented this idea Press [X] to doubt Do you have any source that the USSR had superblocks like this?

brabarossa 4y ago
They are called Microdistricts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdistrict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdistrict Examples: https://imgur.com/a/lxgdEpM https://imgur.com/a/lxgdEpM
- TulliusCicero 4y ago
  Not seeing a lot of evidence that this is similar? For example, the sections without roads don't necessarily look easily permeable to walk/bike traffic, which is a relatively defining trait. Edit: well, in some sense yeah it's a huge block and thus a super block, but in terms of Barcelona-style super blocks with similar aims...