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We know the answer to this, and it was... the Egyptians. The mistake the earlier Egyptologists made is exactly the same one you're making here, which is that hi
by evol262 4y ago
We know the answer to this, and it was... the Egyptians. The mistake the earlier Egyptologists made is exactly the same one you're making here, which is that history is some kind of inevitable march towards progress where knowledge and skills are never lost, and we never go backwards.
There's firm archaeological evidence around quarry sites, etc.
The same (pretty nonsense) questions could have been asked about Roman concrete or how tunnels were bored through the Apennines for aqueducts or whatever else you feel like during the late Middle Ages, despite the fact that the demographics of Italy hadn't really changed. The gap in time between Khufu and Ramses is basically the same as the gap between the reign of Augustus and the Hundred Years' War.
- ncmncm 4y agoObviously Egyptians made everything. Who else, aliens? At issue is how. We do not know. No one is working on it, or anyway publishing. Pretending there is no mystery, as is the habit lately, is not honest.
- mcphage 4y ago> Obviously Egyptians made everything. Then why did you say: > We will need to wait for another of our own generations to learn who really made, e.g., the many precision-machined 50+-ton empty stone boxes under Saqqara, and why. If the issue isn’t who, or why, but how?
- ncmncm 4y agoWe can be confident that whoever crudely tagged the boxes did not make them. We do not know when they were made, which is to say which generation of Egyptians made them, or for what, or how, or why they left one in the middle of the hallway, or how they could have moved any of them into place. What is offered is obviously inadequate.
- mcphage 4y ago> whoever crudely tagged the boxes did not make them Which crude tagging are you referring to here?
- ncmncm 4y agoYou may look at the stuff carved on the outside of the Saqqara boxes yourself. Even images you can find online are wholly adequate to reveal how crude they are.
- mcphage 4y agoI mean, looking at stuff like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Apis_Sarcophagus_of_Khabash.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Apis_Sar... There's not much writing there, but I wouldn't call that crude.
- ncmncm 4y agoRelative to the tech needed to produce the boxes, that is extremely crude. But your pic is far from the most crude seen. That there is no uniformity is more evidence that they were tagged.
- School-Cotton 4y agoI googled “Saqqara boxes” and didn’t find any images where one could really tell. Could you link to the images you’re referring to?
- ncmncm 4y agoExample: https://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/saqqara_serapeum02.jpg https://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/saqq...
- School-Cotton 4y agoPerhaps I’m just a philistine but it’s not obvious to me from that super-low-res photo that the carvings are so bad that they can’t have been made by the same people as the box itself.
- wl 4y agoYou're overconfident. The consensus view in Egyptology is you're wrong about this. Maybe the consensus view is wrong and your fringe theory is more accurate, but it's really hard to have confidence that your theory is the correct one when it is almost universally rejected by people who study this. As someone who can read the inscriptions you're talking about: they're not crude at all.
- ncmncm 4y agoTheir physical execution is crude. We may presume they were transcribed from papyrus written by poets laureate of the period.
- wl 4y agoI'm talking specifically about their physical execution. It's not crude. I've seen plenty of sloppy hieroglyphs. These aren't them.
- ncmncm 4y agoA quick DDG image search turns up https://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/saqqara_serapeum02.jpg https://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/saqq... https://www.theancientconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/DSC00308_1200_watermark-puka-45-opacity.jpeg https://www.theancientconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2021...
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