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I mean... fine, but IMO it's not the number of pardons issued that made this top of mind, but rather the constant controversy around people given pardons, gossi

I mean... fine, but IMO it's not the number of pardons issued that made this top of mind, but rather the constant controversy around people given pardons, gossip about people who requested pardons, and speculation about the legality of a potential self-pardon.

rufus_foreman 4y ago
As opposed to the non-existent controversy over Carter pardoning draft dodgers? Or the non-existent controversy over Clinton pardoning Patty Hearst and members of the Weather Underground? Or the non-existent controversy over Clinton pardoning his half-brother? Or the non-existent controversy over Obama commuting the sentence of Chelsea Manning?
- CrazyPyroLinux 4y ago
  That last one was a win.
  - thakoppno 4y ago
    Between Manning and Assange, whom do you think is more deserving of a pardon?
    - CrazyPyroLinux 4y ago
      False dichotomy; pardon them both, plus Snowden. But if what you're fishing for is that Assange did more for the world, was more dis-proportionally persecuted with less legal justification, then yes.
      - thakoppno 4y ago
        The idea I’m trying to explore is the appropriateness of all the presidential pardon decisions. I agree with you, both deserve pardons. Listing the pardons by appropriateness is just one component that may help analyze the issue. That’s what I meant by asking the question.