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Little domino tile: following the end of WWII, the US installs terrorist cells in Europe in fear of a communist takeover Big domino tile: Silvio Berlusconi bec

Little domino tile: following the end of WWII, the US installs terrorist cells in Europe in fear of a communist takeover Big domino tile: Silvio Berlusconi becomes prime minister of Italy in 1994

MonkeyClub 4y ago
Silvio is also tied to the P2 lodge, right?
- rizoma_dev 4y ago
  Sure is. He was also sentenced for a ludicrous amount of tax evasion while in office and he is still in politics
- sph 4y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due Usually one doesn't have to go very deep into secret societies and political ties before landing on the actual and often-memed-about Freemasons. This variant of the story ties nicely with Gladio, Italian intelligence and secret services, politics, far right groups and mysterious deaths in the 70s and 80s. Oh, and of course Silvio Berlusconi. P2 is the Italian version of the 9/11 conspiracy theories. Not saying it's bollocks, just wanting to point out how widespread it is in Italy, but I don't think it's very well known outside of it.
  - xanathar 4y ago
    Well, Licio Gelli (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licio_Gelli https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licio_Gelli) is not just a "theory". Then, one can theorize whether there is more about P2 than it has been said or not, especially when it comes to well known politician names, but I wouldn't rule it out as a conspiracy theory: there were official prosecutions, a special commission (whose words incidentally say clearly "[P2] cannot be considered as just another political scandal. This is way different." (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissione_P2 https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissione_P2)) and special laws that were written/changed for this precise reason. Then of course when "freemasons" are named, people imagination roams wild, but it was "something" not just pure fantasy/speculation.

Little domino tile: following the end of WWII, the US installs terrorist cells in Europe in fear of a communist takeover Big domino tile: Silvio Berlusconi becomes prime minister of Italy in 1994

MonkeyClub 4y ago

Silvio is also tied to the P2 lodge, right?

rizoma_dev 4y ago
Sure is. He was also sentenced for a ludicrous amount of tax evasion while in office and he is still in politics
sph 4y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due Usually one doesn't have to go very deep into secret societies and political ties before landing on the actual and often-memed-about Freemasons. This variant of the story ties nicely with Gladio, Italian intelligence and secret services, politics, far right groups and mysterious deaths in the 70s and 80s. Oh, and of course Silvio Berlusconi. P2 is the Italian version of the 9/11 conspiracy theories. Not saying it's bollocks, just wanting to point out how widespread it is in Italy, but I don't think it's very well known outside of it.
- xanathar 4y ago
  Well, Licio Gelli (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licio_Gelli https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licio_Gelli) is not just a "theory". Then, one can theorize whether there is more about P2 than it has been said or not, especially when it comes to well known politician names, but I wouldn't rule it out as a conspiracy theory: there were official prosecutions, a special commission (whose words incidentally say clearly "[P2] cannot be considered as just another political scandal. This is way different." (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissione_P2 https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissione_P2)) and special laws that were written/changed for this precise reason. Then of course when "freemasons" are named, people imagination roams wild, but it was "something" not just pure fantasy/speculation.