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This entire war has been an exercise in Ukraine using other people's resources to attack Russia. If they wanted to I'm sure the US and Ukraine could figure out

This entire war has been an exercise in Ukraine using other people's resources to attack Russia. If they wanted to I'm sure the US and Ukraine could figure out how to get this done.

ARandomerDude 4y ago
You mean when Ukraine invaded Russia this past February?
nradov 4y ago
During the entire war, Ukraine has only conducted a few small attacks on Russia. Almost all of their attacks have been on invading Russian troops inside Ukraine.
- OrvalWintermute 4y ago
  You are forgetting - A civil war of Western Ukrainians vs the Russian Eastern Ukrainians has been burning at varying levels of intensity for a number of years, which started with a US supported coup that overthrew a pro-Russian elected leader [1] (Article biased in favor of Western Ukrainians but gives a good picture) Western Ukrainians firebombed Trade Union with the ~300 Ethnic Russians (Eastern Ukrainians) in it, and they were burned alive, in Odessa. [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity [2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/02/ukraine-dead-odessa-building-fire https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/02/ukraine-dead-o...
  - nradov 4y ago
    I haven't forgotten anything. Those incidents don't constitute attacks on Russia.
  - int_19h 4y ago
    Your take on Odessa is wrong on so many levels. For starters, the total number of people who died there was 45, not 300, and most of them weren't ethnic Russians, but rather locals (who are mostly Ukrainians, even if many of them are Russophone) who supported Yanukovich. Neither did it happen out of the blue - it was preceded by street fights involving firearms (and some of people carrying those firearms were later in the Trade Union House), said fights triggered by an attack by a pro-Yanukovich mob on an anti-Yanukovich protest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes#Events https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes#Events
    - OrvalWintermute 4y ago
      Looks like more than 45 to me. Warning - these are very grisly photos! https://www.exposingtruth.com/media-wont-tell-odessa-massacre/ https://www.exposingtruth.com/media-wont-tell-odessa-massacr...
munificent 4y ago
> attack Russia That's an interesting way to describe a country defending itself on its own soil.
- phpthrowaway99 4y ago
  Attack Russian forces inside the Ukraine
  - woodruffw 4y ago
    And what, pray tell, were those forces doing in Ukraine?
    - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
      Why are you being so pedantic about this?
      - woodruffw 4y ago
        Because it’s a war of one-sided aggression. The rest of this comment tree indicates a tendency on your part to minimize that, so I’m providing the counterbalance.

This entire war has been an exercise in Ukraine using other people's resources to attack Russia. If they wanted to I'm sure the US and Ukraine could figure out how to get this done.

ARandomerDude 4y ago

You mean when Ukraine invaded Russia this past February?

nradov 4y ago

During the entire war, Ukraine has only conducted a few small attacks on Russia. Almost all of their attacks have been on invading Russian troops inside Ukraine.

OrvalWintermute 4y ago
You are forgetting - A civil war of Western Ukrainians vs the Russian Eastern Ukrainians has been burning at varying levels of intensity for a number of years, which started with a US supported coup that overthrew a pro-Russian elected leader [1] (Article biased in favor of Western Ukrainians but gives a good picture) Western Ukrainians firebombed Trade Union with the ~300 Ethnic Russians (Eastern Ukrainians) in it, and they were burned alive, in Odessa. [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity [2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/02/ukraine-dead-odessa-building-fire https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/02/ukraine-dead-o...
- nradov 4y ago
  I haven't forgotten anything. Those incidents don't constitute attacks on Russia.
- int_19h 4y ago
  Your take on Odessa is wrong on so many levels. For starters, the total number of people who died there was 45, not 300, and most of them weren't ethnic Russians, but rather locals (who are mostly Ukrainians, even if many of them are Russophone) who supported Yanukovich. Neither did it happen out of the blue - it was preceded by street fights involving firearms (and some of people carrying those firearms were later in the Trade Union House), said fights triggered by an attack by a pro-Yanukovich mob on an anti-Yanukovich protest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes#Events https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes#Events
  - OrvalWintermute 4y ago
    Looks like more than 45 to me. Warning - these are very grisly photos! https://www.exposingtruth.com/media-wont-tell-odessa-massacre/ https://www.exposingtruth.com/media-wont-tell-odessa-massacr...

munificent 4y ago

> attack Russia That's an interesting way to describe a country defending itself on its own soil.

phpthrowaway99 4y ago
Attack Russian forces inside the Ukraine
- woodruffw 4y ago
  And what, pray tell, were those forces doing in Ukraine?
  - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
    Why are you being so pedantic about this?
    - woodruffw 4y ago
      Because it’s a war of one-sided aggression. The rest of this comment tree indicates a tendency on your part to minimize that, so I’m providing the counterbalance.