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I moved from Ubuntu to Mint mainly because of Snap. I couldn't take it anymore. Couldn't be happier.

by bkuehl 4y ago

hotpotamus 4y ago
Pop!_OS for the same reason. Also, I'm tired of how everyone seems to constantly re-invent the desktop.
- synu 4y ago
  Pop was such a breath of fresh air when I tried it. They are doing amazing things there, in so many ways.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    Breath of fresh air is the phrase I'd use too. I didn't even realize that they were a hardware company, but after using the OS, I'd seriously consider buying their gear when the time comes for a refresh.
    - qchris 4y ago
      For what it's worth, even if you don't buy their hardware (I don't have any either, although I'm looking hungrily at their desktops and keyboards), it looks like System76 offers an option for directly supporting Pop!_OS through their site, like you might for other open source projects through GitHub Sponsors, Liberapay, etc.
  - stavros 4y ago
    What did you like, specifically?
    - synu 4y ago
      Probably the single biggest thing was how their was nothing extra or (imho) weird. It felt like Android on the Pixel compared to the heavily modified and bundled versions everyone else shipped.
- MattPalmer1086 4y ago
  Same. Snap killed Ubuntu for me. I don't normally care that much about change, I just roll with them. I got used to Unity and ended up liking it. Snap would take my machine a minute to launch the calculator app back in 18.04 I think. And I really can't live with apps auto updating whenever the developer releases a new version. Lack of control over updates was what drove me from Windows in the first place.
jimhefferon 4y ago
I have Mint (you mean Ubuntu Mint?). Firefox is in a snap.
- doodlesdev 4y ago
  He means Linux Mint [0], a fork of Ubuntu with a fork of Gnome and snaps disabled by default. Is there even an Ubuntu Mint? You are probably confusing it with another name. [0]: https://linuxmint.com/ https://linuxmint.com/
- masklinn 4y ago
  There is no such thing as Ubuntu mint. And while linux mint derived from Ubuntu, the snap service is disabled by default while iirc system utilities (like the software manager) are provided as flatpaks.
  - imwillofficial 4y ago
    Careful saying there is no such thing, this is Linux, somebody will up and make it out of spite. I mean, there is a Hannah Montana Linux
  - aliqot 4y ago
    They're making the distinction because there are two Linux Mints, LMDE Which is based on Debian, and the Ubuntu variant, which is just called Linux Mint. It is not officially called Ubuntu Mint, I believe that was a colloquialism.
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ChuckNorris89 4y ago
Ubuntu is so annoying nowadays I really don't understand who's it for anymore. If you want a stable and non-bloated Ubtuntu or Debian based distro for your web server/cloud instance, there are many better choices out there than Ubuntu including vanilla Debian. If you want a batteries-included Ubtuntu-based Windows/MacOS alternative for your PC/laptop with video codecs, proprietary firmware, drivers, and software at your finger tips, then PopOS, ElementaryOS and Mint are much better and saner alternatives for the Average Joe. Feels like the only thing keeping Ubuntu popular is inertia, brand recognition, lock-in effect and the strong influence of Cannonical, but I just can't recommend it to anyone anymore. It seems like Cannonical is so out of touch, it lost the plot a long time ago with what made Ubuntu the linux distro for over a decade.
- zamalek 4y ago
  > I really don't understand who's it for. It is, sadly, for everyone. Writing Github actions workflow? That's on Ubuntu (and you'll need to use Ubuntu for self-hosted runners for more success). Aiming to install a random package binary for a random project you've found? That's probably for Ubuntu. Need any enterprise/MDM stuff? That's probably Ubuntu. We need people to start offering (or demanding) alternatives to Ubuntu before we can reasonably move off of it.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    Why are those thing Ubuntu-exclueive and don't also work on Ubuntu derivatives like Pop_OS or Mint? Isn't that the whole point of Linux?
    - bogwog 4y ago
      None of those things are Ubuntu exclusive. Not sure where he got that information.
akvadrako 4y ago
I use Ubuntu and always uninstall snap. It's not needed at all. I will switch distros next time I need to reinstall though, probably to Fedora Silverblue.

I moved from Ubuntu to Mint mainly because of Snap. I couldn't take it anymore. Couldn't be happier.

by bkuehl 4y ago

I moved from Ubuntu to Mint mainly because of Snap. I couldn't take it anymore. Couldn't be happier.

hotpotamus 4y ago

Pop!_OS for the same reason. Also, I'm tired of how everyone seems to constantly re-invent the desktop.

synu 4y ago
Pop was such a breath of fresh air when I tried it. They are doing amazing things there, in so many ways.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  Breath of fresh air is the phrase I'd use too. I didn't even realize that they were a hardware company, but after using the OS, I'd seriously consider buying their gear when the time comes for a refresh.
  - qchris 4y ago
    For what it's worth, even if you don't buy their hardware (I don't have any either, although I'm looking hungrily at their desktops and keyboards), it looks like System76 offers an option for directly supporting Pop!_OS through their site, like you might for other open source projects through GitHub Sponsors, Liberapay, etc.
- stavros 4y ago
  What did you like, specifically?
  - synu 4y ago
    Probably the single biggest thing was how their was nothing extra or (imho) weird. It felt like Android on the Pixel compared to the heavily modified and bundled versions everyone else shipped.
MattPalmer1086 4y ago
Same. Snap killed Ubuntu for me. I don't normally care that much about change, I just roll with them. I got used to Unity and ended up liking it. Snap would take my machine a minute to launch the calculator app back in 18.04 I think. And I really can't live with apps auto updating whenever the developer releases a new version. Lack of control over updates was what drove me from Windows in the first place.

jimhefferon 4y ago

I have Mint (you mean Ubuntu Mint?). Firefox is in a snap.

doodlesdev 4y ago
He means Linux Mint [0], a fork of Ubuntu with a fork of Gnome and snaps disabled by default. Is there even an Ubuntu Mint? You are probably confusing it with another name. [0]: https://linuxmint.com/ https://linuxmint.com/
masklinn 4y ago
There is no such thing as Ubuntu mint. And while linux mint derived from Ubuntu, the snap service is disabled by default while iirc system utilities (like the software manager) are provided as flatpaks.
- imwillofficial 4y ago
  Careful saying there is no such thing, this is Linux, somebody will up and make it out of spite. I mean, there is a Hannah Montana Linux
- aliqot 4y ago
  They're making the distinction because there are two Linux Mints, LMDE Which is based on Debian, and the Ubuntu variant, which is just called Linux Mint. It is not officially called Ubuntu Mint, I believe that was a colloquialism.
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ChuckNorris89 4y ago

Ubuntu is so annoying nowadays I really don't understand who's it for anymore. If you want a stable and non-bloated Ubtuntu or Debian based distro for your web server/cloud instance, there are many better choices out there than Ubuntu including vanilla Debian. If you want a batteries-included Ubtuntu-based Windows/MacOS alternative for your PC/laptop with video codecs, proprietary firmware, drivers, and software at your finger tips, then PopOS, ElementaryOS and Mint are much better and saner alternatives for the Average Joe. Feels like the only thing keeping Ubuntu popular is inertia, brand recognition, lock-in effect and the strong influence of Cannonical, but I just can't recommend it to anyone anymore. It seems like Cannonical is so out of touch, it lost the plot a long time ago with what made Ubuntu the linux distro for over a decade.

zamalek 4y ago
> I really don't understand who's it for. It is, sadly, for everyone. Writing Github actions workflow? That's on Ubuntu (and you'll need to use Ubuntu for self-hosted runners for more success). Aiming to install a random package binary for a random project you've found? That's probably for Ubuntu. Need any enterprise/MDM stuff? That's probably Ubuntu. We need people to start offering (or demanding) alternatives to Ubuntu before we can reasonably move off of it.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  Why are those thing Ubuntu-exclueive and don't also work on Ubuntu derivatives like Pop_OS or Mint? Isn't that the whole point of Linux?
  - bogwog 4y ago
    None of those things are Ubuntu exclusive. Not sure where he got that information.

akvadrako 4y ago

I use Ubuntu and always uninstall snap. It's not needed at all. I will switch distros next time I need to reinstall though, probably to Fedora Silverblue.