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The island of Taiwan is part of the People's Republic of China, and they will decide what to do with it and when. What Americans think, want or say is irrelevan

The island of Taiwan is part of the People's Republic of China, and they will decide what to do with it and when. What Americans think, want or say is irrelevant.

pauldenton 4y ago
Do you think the US base in Okinawa is also irrelevant
bovermyer 4y ago
The people of Taiwan disagree with your first sentence. The United States' military presence in the region disagrees with your second sentence.
- trasz 4y ago
  I think the majority of the western world would disagree with the first sentence, I know I would. But at the same time the people of Taiwan generally prefer things to stay as they are right now; independence with everything it involves isn't the number one option there. It's definitely _the_ main option for United States - because, as usual, the war would be waged far away from US territory, so they wouldn't suffer losses.
- aydnina 4y ago
  Given the joke of US military whose proxies are being slaughtered in Ukraine, the bases and military presence do not mean anything. Yes, they can kill innocent civilians in Afghanistan or Iraq that's all good those morons are good for.
  - trasz 4y ago
    People slaughtered in Ukraine by Russian nazis aren't "proxies", they are civilians. To a Russian this distinction might be hard to understand, but civilised countries generally try to fight armies instead of levelling cities. Note how civilian casualties in Syria were order of magnitude higher than in Afghanistan?
    - aydnina 4y ago
      You are welcome to believe whatever nonsense you want to believe. The point remains, PRC decides whats to be done with the island of Taiwan. And US interference will only lead to annihilation of US. As a citizen of the 85% of the world's population who have not sanctioned Russia, we are firmly supportive.
      - trasz 4y ago
        Again, couple of months ago one could say the same about Ukraine and Russia. Then Rashists spectacularly lost the entire western front.
        aydnina 4y ago
        If my memory serves me right (and it rarely fails), you are someone whom I have up-voted countless number of times with my old account and occasionally using this one. I am pretty sure you are not an idiot (like many of the top commenters in this forum) who believes that "Ukraine is winning" or "Russia is doing badly in this war" because of ideological reasons, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are misinformed.
        _kbh_ 4y ago
        I think if you live in reality it’s pretty undeniable that Russia is doing badly in this war. Russias man power has been so degraded they had to resort to recruiting people from prisons and forced conscription of Ukrainians in Luhansk and Donbas. Russias heavy armour has been destroyed so badly that we are seeing T62s rolled out to the front lines. These T62s are so old they don’t even use the 3 man setup that all more modern Russian takes do because they don’t have a autoloader. Russia is also incapable of protecting territory it has captured. The occupied territories of Ukraine regularly have car bombs and ammo depots explode, Crimea even has Russian air bases spontaneously exploding so much all Russian tourists fled back to Russia.
        aydnina 4y ago
  - _kbh_ 4y ago
    > You are welcome to believe whatever nonsense you want to believe. The point remains, PRC decides whats to be done with the island of Taiwan. The PRC doesn't even get to decide who goes to Taiwan, who do you reason that they get to decide what is done with Taiwan?.

The island of Taiwan is part of the People's Republic of China, and they will decide what to do with it and when. What Americans think, want or say is irrelevant.

pauldenton 4y ago

Do you think the US base in Okinawa is also irrelevant

bovermyer 4y ago

The people of Taiwan disagree with your first sentence. The United States' military presence in the region disagrees with your second sentence.

trasz 4y ago
I think the majority of the western world would disagree with the first sentence, I know I would. But at the same time the people of Taiwan generally prefer things to stay as they are right now; independence with everything it involves isn't the number one option there. It's definitely _the_ main option for United States - because, as usual, the war would be waged far away from US territory, so they wouldn't suffer losses.
aydnina 4y ago
Given the joke of US military whose proxies are being slaughtered in Ukraine, the bases and military presence do not mean anything. Yes, they can kill innocent civilians in Afghanistan or Iraq that's all good those morons are good for.
- trasz 4y ago
  People slaughtered in Ukraine by Russian nazis aren't "proxies", they are civilians. To a Russian this distinction might be hard to understand, but civilised countries generally try to fight armies instead of levelling cities. Note how civilian casualties in Syria were order of magnitude higher than in Afghanistan?
  - aydnina 4y ago
    You are welcome to believe whatever nonsense you want to believe. The point remains, PRC decides whats to be done with the island of Taiwan. And US interference will only lead to annihilation of US. As a citizen of the 85% of the world's population who have not sanctioned Russia, we are firmly supportive.
    - trasz 4y ago
      Again, couple of months ago one could say the same about Ukraine and Russia. Then Rashists spectacularly lost the entire western front.
      - aydnina 4y ago
        If my memory serves me right (and it rarely fails), you are someone whom I have up-voted countless number of times with my old account and occasionally using this one. I am pretty sure you are not an idiot (like many of the top commenters in this forum) who believes that "Ukraine is winning" or "Russia is doing badly in this war" because of ideological reasons, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are misinformed.
        _kbh_ 4y ago
        I think if you live in reality it’s pretty undeniable that Russia is doing badly in this war. Russias man power has been so degraded they had to resort to recruiting people from prisons and forced conscription of Ukrainians in Luhansk and Donbas. Russias heavy armour has been destroyed so badly that we are seeing T62s rolled out to the front lines. These T62s are so old they don’t even use the 3 man setup that all more modern Russian takes do because they don’t have a autoloader. Russia is also incapable of protecting territory it has captured. The occupied territories of Ukraine regularly have car bombs and ammo depots explode, Crimea even has Russian air bases spontaneously exploding so much all Russian tourists fled back to Russia.
        aydnina 4y ago
- _kbh_ 4y ago
  > You are welcome to believe whatever nonsense you want to believe. The point remains, PRC decides whats to be done with the island of Taiwan. The PRC doesn't even get to decide who goes to Taiwan, who do you reason that they get to decide what is done with Taiwan?.