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Slightly off topic: I am the owner of a Tesla, and until recently a 2021 model 5 series BMW. The 5 series had 'keep your lane' and 'follow' functionality, and I

by rogerb 4y ago

Slightly off topic: I am the owner of a Tesla, and until recently a 2021 model 5 series BMW. The 5 series had 'keep your lane' and 'follow' functionality, and I've been absolutely flabbergasted that this functionality made it on production vehicles. It would give up in the middle of basic turns in the road in such a way that it tried to turn you straight into the divider. It was comically bad, except that it wasn't funny. The Tesla (not a fanboy btw) is miles ahead in this regard.

tablespoon 4y ago
> The 5 series had 'keep your lane' and 'follow' functionality, and I've been absolutely flabbergasted that this functionality made it on production vehicles. It would give up in the middle of basic turns in the road in such a way that it tried to turn you straight into the divider. It was comically bad, except that it wasn't funny. Could that be deliberate to keep the driver attentive? I have a Honda with similar functionality, and it will just completely disengage if the driver hasn't adjusted the steering in 15-20 seconds. It also has automatic emergency breaking that deliberately will not prevent a collision, it will only slow you down. The effect of their decisions is that long distance driving is easier, but it's impossible to even try to let the car drive itself.
- rogerb 4y ago
  AFAICT it was totally random. I would keep my hands on the wheel at all time but even then it felt very surprising. After a couple of times I never engaged it again, except for couple of times to show others how ridiculously bad it all was.
defterGoose 4y ago
Suggestion: the planet is dying. While I applaud your move to an EV, understand that your want for a new vehicle every couple years has an absolutely massive carbon footprint. To anyone reading this comment: please buy used and understand that most problems with cars can be fixed economically by someone with a bit of knowledge.
- rogerb 4y ago
  > understand that your want for a new vehicle every couple years you're making a lot of assumptions here. In general I'd agree with you.
- Bancakes 4y ago
  - defterGoose 4y ago
    Dude, cars have been safe and modern for like 20 years now.
    - Bancakes 4y ago
      How many cars had crumple zones 20 years ago?

by rogerb 4y ago

tablespoon 4y ago

> The 5 series had 'keep your lane' and 'follow' functionality, and I've been absolutely flabbergasted that this functionality made it on production vehicles. It would give up in the middle of basic turns in the road in such a way that it tried to turn you straight into the divider. It was comically bad, except that it wasn't funny. Could that be deliberate to keep the driver attentive? I have a Honda with similar functionality, and it will just completely disengage if the driver hasn't adjusted the steering in 15-20 seconds. It also has automatic emergency breaking that deliberately will not prevent a collision, it will only slow you down. The effect of their decisions is that long distance driving is easier, but it's impossible to even try to let the car drive itself.

rogerb 4y ago
AFAICT it was totally random. I would keep my hands on the wheel at all time but even then it felt very surprising. After a couple of times I never engaged it again, except for couple of times to show others how ridiculously bad it all was.

defterGoose 4y ago

Suggestion: the planet is dying. While I applaud your move to an EV, understand that your want for a new vehicle every couple years has an absolutely massive carbon footprint. To anyone reading this comment: please buy used and understand that most problems with cars can be fixed economically by someone with a bit of knowledge.

rogerb 4y ago
> understand that your want for a new vehicle every couple years you're making a lot of assumptions here. In general I'd agree with you.
Bancakes 4y ago
- defterGoose 4y ago
  Dude, cars have been safe and modern for like 20 years now.
  - Bancakes 4y ago
    How many cars had crumple zones 20 years ago?