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I love driving a Tesla with no buttons. I hate buttons. The two multipurpose buttons on the steering wheel are enough for me. I don’t even like having a HUD. Ju

I love driving a Tesla with no buttons. I hate buttons. The two multipurpose buttons on the steering wheel are enough for me. I don’t even like having a HUD. Just useless information in front of my face. Just give me a big touch screen and I’m happy.

colordrops 4y ago
Absolutely. My theory is that most of the people hating on touchscreens in this thread are using horrible solutions provided by manufactures other than Tesla. It's similar to when everyone claimed that touchscreens on phones wouldn't work. They were right until they weren't. Touchscreens on phones didn't work until Apple fixed that. Tesla has done a proper job on car touchscreen UX, but everyone else is putting out garbage.
- barnabee 4y ago
  I dislike touchscreens. Sure, phones are a marvel ans show what you can do with touchscreen apps but that is nothing like driving. I also can't play games on a phone well without a controller (or keyboard and mouse for FPS) for the same reason (computer aim/walking assistance is cheating, why bother?!). I use an external mechanical keyboard even when on the road (Keychron K7) because I don't find even the M1 Macbook Pro's keyboard good enough for real work. So yeah, the touchscreen puts me off getting a Tesla (alongside a bunch of other cars) almost as much as the amount of remote control they have over their cars. No thanks, as much as I love the idea of owning a Tesla.
  - trixie_ 4y ago
    It’s funny how I’m the opposite. I play FPS games on my phone as good as with a mouse and keyboard. I like low profile laptop keyboards because I can type faster with minimal down distance and force per finger. In the car the touch screen is so much bigger and nicer than any button interface in a legacy car.
  - colordrops 4y ago
    That's fine, everyone has their preferences. But it's perhaps better to try something before judging that it's crap without experiential evidence.
- dotopotoro 4y ago
  Would you use a PC without any of keyboard hotkeys? I’m not fanatical about this, I would use it if I would be forced by circumstances. But I would not be happy about it. And I still would try to educate/convince older colleagues that hotkeys make things quicker/easier/“reliabler”. From your speculation of source of touchscreen hate, I see that you feel that tesla has superior car touchscreen experience. And I don't doubt that. But however good you can be with touchscreen, you can do even better if you also have bunch of physical buttons (in addition to touchscreen/must look then point device).
  - colordrops 4y ago
    > Would you use a PC without any of keyboard hotkeys? That's not a good analogy. The main interface to the car is not the controls/screen, it's the steering wheel and pedals. The controls and screen are interacted with only intermittently. There is more information available allowing for automating most of the controls, and voice control for the rest, meaning the screen is mostly just used for visualization and the occasional action.

colordrops 4y ago

Absolutely. My theory is that most of the people hating on touchscreens in this thread are using horrible solutions provided by manufactures other than Tesla. It's similar to when everyone claimed that touchscreens on phones wouldn't work. They were right until they weren't. Touchscreens on phones didn't work until Apple fixed that. Tesla has done a proper job on car touchscreen UX, but everyone else is putting out garbage.

barnabee 4y ago
I dislike touchscreens. Sure, phones are a marvel ans show what you can do with touchscreen apps but that is nothing like driving. I also can't play games on a phone well without a controller (or keyboard and mouse for FPS) for the same reason (computer aim/walking assistance is cheating, why bother?!). I use an external mechanical keyboard even when on the road (Keychron K7) because I don't find even the M1 Macbook Pro's keyboard good enough for real work. So yeah, the touchscreen puts me off getting a Tesla (alongside a bunch of other cars) almost as much as the amount of remote control they have over their cars. No thanks, as much as I love the idea of owning a Tesla.
- trixie_ 4y ago
  It’s funny how I’m the opposite. I play FPS games on my phone as good as with a mouse and keyboard. I like low profile laptop keyboards because I can type faster with minimal down distance and force per finger. In the car the touch screen is so much bigger and nicer than any button interface in a legacy car.
- colordrops 4y ago
  That's fine, everyone has their preferences. But it's perhaps better to try something before judging that it's crap without experiential evidence.
dotopotoro 4y ago
Would you use a PC without any of keyboard hotkeys? I’m not fanatical about this, I would use it if I would be forced by circumstances. But I would not be happy about it. And I still would try to educate/convince older colleagues that hotkeys make things quicker/easier/“reliabler”. From your speculation of source of touchscreen hate, I see that you feel that tesla has superior car touchscreen experience. And I don't doubt that. But however good you can be with touchscreen, you can do even better if you also have bunch of physical buttons (in addition to touchscreen/must look then point device).
- colordrops 4y ago
  > Would you use a PC without any of keyboard hotkeys? That's not a good analogy. The main interface to the car is not the controls/screen, it's the steering wheel and pedals. The controls and screen are interacted with only intermittently. There is more information available allowing for automating most of the controls, and voice control for the rest, meaning the screen is mostly just used for visualization and the occasional action.