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Can confirm. I have an F-150 Lightning. The UI sucks and is slow. Much worse than my Teslas. It takes like 30 seconds when I get in the truck and turn it on bef

Can confirm. I have an F-150 Lightning. The UI sucks and is slow. Much worse than my Teslas. It takes like 30 seconds when I get in the truck and turn it on before it's even usable. Switching between CarPlay and the native interface is ridiculous. It's a great truck though. Love it. :) AMA.

rootusrootus 4y ago
One of these days we will have big enough batteries to power a superduty a reasonable distance. I can't wait. I've loved my EVs, now I want that for my F250.
- jconley 4y ago
  A bigger concern for me is the charging speed/infrastructure for what an F250/350 might want to do. For me, that's tow a 5th wheel or trailer a UTV for hundreds of miles. Need better infrastructure and much higher voltage packs to make that viable without spending hours at the chargers blocking parking lots.
misiti3780 4y ago
What is the real range vs EPA range?
- jconley 4y ago
  This is highly dependent on how you drive, elevation changes, weather conditions, load/trailer weight/aerodynamics, and average speeds. So... I've seen both better than EPA ratings and worse than EPA ratings. It's rated at 320 miles on the 131kwh battery, which is about 2.4 mi/kwh. I've driven at times ranging from 1.5mi/kwh to 3.5 mi/kwh. So, I think it's accurate for their mixed highway/city test. If you're doing pure highway and thinking about a road trip, that is worst case scenario. At like 70 mph it's going to be around 2-2.1 mi/kwh unladen, so it'll be less than EPA rated, faster speeds get worse due to aero. At 2 mi/kwh that's 262 miles of range. On a road trip I'd also keep the truck between 10-80% state of charge for optimal charge speeds, so I'd only get 70% of the range, or 183 miles. So I'd plan to stop every 150 miles or so. This is actually similar to my real world results driving a Tesla Model 3 and Y. For the most optimal total trip time you're usually stopping every 150-200 miles or so.

rootusrootus 4y ago

One of these days we will have big enough batteries to power a superduty a reasonable distance. I can't wait. I've loved my EVs, now I want that for my F250.

jconley 4y ago
A bigger concern for me is the charging speed/infrastructure for what an F250/350 might want to do. For me, that's tow a 5th wheel or trailer a UTV for hundreds of miles. Need better infrastructure and much higher voltage packs to make that viable without spending hours at the chargers blocking parking lots.

misiti3780 4y ago

What is the real range vs EPA range?

jconley 4y ago
This is highly dependent on how you drive, elevation changes, weather conditions, load/trailer weight/aerodynamics, and average speeds. So... I've seen both better than EPA ratings and worse than EPA ratings. It's rated at 320 miles on the 131kwh battery, which is about 2.4 mi/kwh. I've driven at times ranging from 1.5mi/kwh to 3.5 mi/kwh. So, I think it's accurate for their mixed highway/city test. If you're doing pure highway and thinking about a road trip, that is worst case scenario. At like 70 mph it's going to be around 2-2.1 mi/kwh unladen, so it'll be less than EPA rated, faster speeds get worse due to aero. At 2 mi/kwh that's 262 miles of range. On a road trip I'd also keep the truck between 10-80% state of charge for optimal charge speeds, so I'd only get 70% of the range, or 183 miles. So I'd plan to stop every 150 miles or so. This is actually similar to my real world results driving a Tesla Model 3 and Y. For the most optimal total trip time you're usually stopping every 150-200 miles or so.