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It's nothing that requires much research. The current national government openly supports discrimination on religious and caste based backgrounds. 7 years of th

by bgdam 4y ago

It's nothing that requires much research. The current national government openly supports discrimination on religious and caste based backgrounds. 7 years of this, and people who used to think "Caste is a taboo subject, and we should be working around it", now think "Caste pride is cool".

cortesoft 4y ago
It sounds a lot like what has happened in the US over the last 7 years
- draw_down 4y ago
rajup 4y ago
Hmm the current Prime Minister of India is from a "lower" caste. The current president of India is from a "lower" caste. Curious how you come up with "the current national government openly supports discrimination on religious and caste based backgrounds".
- lowbloodsugar 4y ago
  In the same way Hitler was hardly a model, muscled, blond haired Aryan. Those without the traits advocate it more.
  - rajup 4y ago
    Uhh.. what?! I’ve seen some crazy takes on here but this one is definitely new and takes the top spot.
  - cuteboy19 4y ago
    The analogy is incorrect. Hitler would need to be a Jewish rabbi for it to be accurate
- mrtranscendence 4y ago
  Are you denying that the national government of India has taken a reactionary turn under the leadership of Modi?
  - rajup 4y ago
    Probably not, I do think the current government leans a bit more towards religious intolerance than co-existence. I do however take issue with bashing the government for every social justice issue du jour. It’s convenient but very distracting for all sides involved. For example GP here accuses the current government of caste intolerance. If you think about it though it doesn’t make much sense, given the Indian government’s nationalist agenda of uniting all Hindus and instilling in them pride for their culture etc. Sowing caste divisions would be the exact opposite of what they would want to do in this scenario.
    - spaceman_2020 4y ago
      That’s precisely the problem: the current government has promoted blind pride in native (Hindu) culture but has never sought to promote any discussion on some of the flaws in that culture. The Manusmriti, for instance, has been referenced and quoted by several ministers and politicians. Yet no one has addressed the deep casteism in it. The government doesn’t promote casteism - I agree with that. But promoting Hindu pride without addressing some of its issues eventually gets you casteism.
- spaceman_2020 4y ago
  The Indian caste hierarchy works in complex ways. The very top and the very bottom are confirmed, but everyone in the middle just kind of gets mixed together. If you’re Indian, you know it too - the OBC category is just political hogwash (disclaimer: I’m from an OBC category)
cmonnow 4y ago
- istjohn 4y ago
  You've spammed this comment 7 times now. My reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32494149 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32494149
- hereiam420 4y ago
  > it is always the lowest ranks that complain about a lack of equality. It is the sour grapes fox story all over again. I wonder if you'd complain about them grapes if your caste's job was to clean toilets/sewers and nothing else. With no hope or support to pursue any other line of work, irrespective of merit or personal interests. To be humiliated, looked down upon, shunned all your life and be denied access to quality education, water, public services just because of the circumstances of ones birth - and it goes for your children too. Merit has no basis in the caste system. In fact, it exists only to maintain the status quo. Case in point... >If you're a warrior, and you have a son, you train him in your ancestral warfare, thereby giving him the best of nature. And if you had begotten him on a warrior lady, you gave him the best of nurture too. Both his genes and his upbringing are designed to bring out the best potential, benefiting both him and society. And your son automatically has a job waiting for him (yours) when he finishes schooling. The rest of your message lacks logic or signs of empathy for people who'd been dealt the wrong end of the stick. Sure, not all humans are born equal, but to deny ones right to a better life based on social hierarchy defined millennia ago is downright evil and should not have any place in modern society.
  - cmonnow 4y ago
- depr 4y ago
  Don't you think posting a comment once is enough?
  - 4y ago

by bgdam 4y ago

cortesoft 4y ago

It sounds a lot like what has happened in the US over the last 7 years

draw_down 4y ago

rajup 4y ago

Hmm the current Prime Minister of India is from a "lower" caste. The current president of India is from a "lower" caste. Curious how you come up with "the current national government openly supports discrimination on religious and caste based backgrounds".

lowbloodsugar 4y ago
In the same way Hitler was hardly a model, muscled, blond haired Aryan. Those without the traits advocate it more.
- rajup 4y ago
  Uhh.. what?! I’ve seen some crazy takes on here but this one is definitely new and takes the top spot.
- cuteboy19 4y ago
  The analogy is incorrect. Hitler would need to be a Jewish rabbi for it to be accurate
mrtranscendence 4y ago
Are you denying that the national government of India has taken a reactionary turn under the leadership of Modi?
- rajup 4y ago
  Probably not, I do think the current government leans a bit more towards religious intolerance than co-existence. I do however take issue with bashing the government for every social justice issue du jour. It’s convenient but very distracting for all sides involved. For example GP here accuses the current government of caste intolerance. If you think about it though it doesn’t make much sense, given the Indian government’s nationalist agenda of uniting all Hindus and instilling in them pride for their culture etc. Sowing caste divisions would be the exact opposite of what they would want to do in this scenario.
  - spaceman_2020 4y ago
    That’s precisely the problem: the current government has promoted blind pride in native (Hindu) culture but has never sought to promote any discussion on some of the flaws in that culture. The Manusmriti, for instance, has been referenced and quoted by several ministers and politicians. Yet no one has addressed the deep casteism in it. The government doesn’t promote casteism - I agree with that. But promoting Hindu pride without addressing some of its issues eventually gets you casteism.
spaceman_2020 4y ago
The Indian caste hierarchy works in complex ways. The very top and the very bottom are confirmed, but everyone in the middle just kind of gets mixed together. If you’re Indian, you know it too - the OBC category is just political hogwash (disclaimer: I’m from an OBC category)

cmonnow 4y ago

istjohn 4y ago
You've spammed this comment 7 times now. My reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32494149 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32494149
hereiam420 4y ago
> it is always the lowest ranks that complain about a lack of equality. It is the sour grapes fox story all over again. I wonder if you'd complain about them grapes if your caste's job was to clean toilets/sewers and nothing else. With no hope or support to pursue any other line of work, irrespective of merit or personal interests. To be humiliated, looked down upon, shunned all your life and be denied access to quality education, water, public services just because of the circumstances of ones birth - and it goes for your children too. Merit has no basis in the caste system. In fact, it exists only to maintain the status quo. Case in point... >If you're a warrior, and you have a son, you train him in your ancestral warfare, thereby giving him the best of nature. And if you had begotten him on a warrior lady, you gave him the best of nurture too. Both his genes and his upbringing are designed to bring out the best potential, benefiting both him and society. And your son automatically has a job waiting for him (yours) when he finishes schooling. The rest of your message lacks logic or signs of empathy for people who'd been dealt the wrong end of the stick. Sure, not all humans are born equal, but to deny ones right to a better life based on social hierarchy defined millennia ago is downright evil and should not have any place in modern society.
- cmonnow 4y ago
depr 4y ago
Don't you think posting a comment once is enough?
- 4y ago