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If you haven't experienced something, and think someone else claiming that they experienced it is stupid, I really don't know who is stupid. If person A slaps

If you haven't experienced something, and think someone else claiming that they experienced it is stupid, I really don't know who is stupid. If person A slaps person B and person C goes "I didn't experience anything. There are no slaps in this company", does that sound reasonable?

remflight 4y ago
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- arvindamirtaa 4y ago
  Your assertion that it's not, is not sufficient. Especially when the very idea of having a talk caused so much tension. If it's a non existent problem, this talk would've been given no more attention than a presentation about bigfoot. Such (pro)active denial usually indicates the denier has something to hide. Now that may not be the case here. But assuming you're right about this not being a Google problem but just small pockets like sexual harassment and racism. Doesn't google still hold talks about racism & sexual harassment? I'm pretty sure they do. So why the voice against this talk, and this issue specifically?
  - remflight 4y ago
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    - arvindamirtaa 4y ago
      Once again, your assertions are yours to make. The policy of the company, as evidenced by their actions, points the other way.
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- boucher 4y ago
  I could play the same game and say perhaps you didn't read the article. The article doesn't suggest it is a problem unique to Google. It suggests that Google's efforts at DEI, which you are telling us are industry best, have a blind spot on this subject, as evidenced by the way they handled this situation. A story that sounds plausible to me.
- dilap 4y ago
  What role did Google hire you for? PR? If something bad is occurring inside Google, then of course it is Google's problem. Whether or not it's ocurring I don't know, but to think that just because they have training materials saying something is bad and absolutely not to be tolerated means that it's necessarily in practice not tolerated is very naive!
- asah 4y ago
  sorry, but I'm with the others here - one's personal experience does not negate the experience of others, and it also doesn't inform the question of whether this is a "google problem" or an "industry problem" (which btw, I'm inclined to believe). It's just a single random datapoint among (literally) 300,000.

remflight 4y ago

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arvindamirtaa 4y ago
Your assertion that it's not, is not sufficient. Especially when the very idea of having a talk caused so much tension. If it's a non existent problem, this talk would've been given no more attention than a presentation about bigfoot. Such (pro)active denial usually indicates the denier has something to hide. Now that may not be the case here. But assuming you're right about this not being a Google problem but just small pockets like sexual harassment and racism. Doesn't google still hold talks about racism & sexual harassment? I'm pretty sure they do. So why the voice against this talk, and this issue specifically?
- remflight 4y ago
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  - arvindamirtaa 4y ago
    Once again, your assertions are yours to make. The policy of the company, as evidenced by their actions, points the other way.
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boucher 4y ago
I could play the same game and say perhaps you didn't read the article. The article doesn't suggest it is a problem unique to Google. It suggests that Google's efforts at DEI, which you are telling us are industry best, have a blind spot on this subject, as evidenced by the way they handled this situation. A story that sounds plausible to me.
dilap 4y ago
What role did Google hire you for? PR? If something bad is occurring inside Google, then of course it is Google's problem. Whether or not it's ocurring I don't know, but to think that just because they have training materials saying something is bad and absolutely not to be tolerated means that it's necessarily in practice not tolerated is very naive!
asah 4y ago
sorry, but I'm with the others here - one's personal experience does not negate the experience of others, and it also doesn't inform the question of whether this is a "google problem" or an "industry problem" (which btw, I'm inclined to believe). It's just a single random datapoint among (literally) 300,000.