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Don't you love the British. Who thought of the name "University College"? Metabolism before genes makes perfect sense. Defining life is silliness as far as I'm

Don't you love the British. Who thought of the name "University College"? Metabolism before genes makes perfect sense. Defining life is silliness as far as I'm concerned, but DNA is a very specific mechanism of reproduction whereas metabolism is more universal basic concept. Or so it seems to me...

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dboreham 4y ago
> Who thought of the name "University College"? Whoever wanted to disambiguate vs Kings College in 1836 presumably.
- ggm 4y ago
  This. University College London is the product of the early 19th century and the Benthamite secular education movement. Jeremy is in a glass case in the foyer. At the time, degrees in colleges at Oxford and Cambridge demanded adherence to the 39 articles of the Anglican faith. Birkbeck college which is also a constituent of the university of london (like UCL) is a contemporary and focussed on technical education for working people, with teaching at night so they could both work, and study. It also has Jeremy Bentham in it's DNA. (worked at UCL in the 80s. my mum went to the slade school of art there in the 1940s. its a great place)
  - moistly 4y ago
    > Jeremy is in a glass case in the foyer Well I’ll be damned… they actually put his remains on display. How gruesome. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/philosophers-dressed-remains-get-new-display-university-college-london-180974347/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/philosophers-dress...
    - ggm 4y ago
      At least one pub had a spare head. I feel this is a lot like Uberto Eco name of the rose "the reliquary included the head of John the baptist: as a child and as an adult"
      - moistly 4y ago
        His skeleton is in there, too.
- twic 4y ago
  To expand this: ancient times - Oxford and Cambridge universities come into being, composed of multiple independent and mostly equivalent colleges (ie all teaching the full range of subjects) 1826 - London University founded 1829 - King's College founded 1836 - London University and King's College combine to form the University of London, comprising two colleges roughly on the Oxbridge model; London University is renamed to University College University College may be a silly name, but what else would they have called it? London College? Hardly better. Note that University College, Oxford and University College Dublin are called that for completely different reasons.
Calavar 4y ago
In the US, the terms university and college are used more or less interchangeably. In the UK, a university is a collection of semi-independent colleges, each with their own students and faculty and their own departments for all the various subjects. A university college is the founding college in a university. (University College London is a constituent college of the University of London.) So the name might sound comically redundant to Americans, but it makes sense in the British system.
- ramraj07 4y ago
  The Americans may close their mouth until they acknowledge the ridiculousness of The Los Angeles Angels.
  - navi0 4y ago
    …of Anaheim :-)
  - 0xcafecafe 4y ago
    I think that happens when other language nouns are added to English. Case in point "chai" tea and "naan" bread. Chai means tea and naan means bread but here we are...
    - bookofjoe 4y ago
      tuna fish
  - nonameiguess 4y ago
    Anyone who isn't associated with the Angels banged on about the ridiculousness of their claimed home change (which notably did not involve an actual move) before they ever did it. They're nowhere near Los Angeles and have no historical association with the city. MLB never should have let them claim the name, despite the even more ridiculous "of Anaheim" qualifier. They're the Anaheim Angels, no matter what else they try to say they are.
  - jjk166 4y ago

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dboreham 4y ago

> Who thought of the name "University College"? Whoever wanted to disambiguate vs Kings College in 1836 presumably.

ggm 4y ago
This. University College London is the product of the early 19th century and the Benthamite secular education movement. Jeremy is in a glass case in the foyer. At the time, degrees in colleges at Oxford and Cambridge demanded adherence to the 39 articles of the Anglican faith. Birkbeck college which is also a constituent of the university of london (like UCL) is a contemporary and focussed on technical education for working people, with teaching at night so they could both work, and study. It also has Jeremy Bentham in it's DNA. (worked at UCL in the 80s. my mum went to the slade school of art there in the 1940s. its a great place)
- moistly 4y ago
  > Jeremy is in a glass case in the foyer Well I’ll be damned… they actually put his remains on display. How gruesome. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/philosophers-dressed-remains-get-new-display-university-college-london-180974347/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/philosophers-dress...
  - ggm 4y ago
    At least one pub had a spare head. I feel this is a lot like Uberto Eco name of the rose "the reliquary included the head of John the baptist: as a child and as an adult"
    - moistly 4y ago
      His skeleton is in there, too.
twic 4y ago
To expand this: ancient times - Oxford and Cambridge universities come into being, composed of multiple independent and mostly equivalent colleges (ie all teaching the full range of subjects) 1826 - London University founded 1829 - King's College founded 1836 - London University and King's College combine to form the University of London, comprising two colleges roughly on the Oxbridge model; London University is renamed to University College University College may be a silly name, but what else would they have called it? London College? Hardly better. Note that University College, Oxford and University College Dublin are called that for completely different reasons.

Calavar 4y ago

In the US, the terms university and college are used more or less interchangeably. In the UK, a university is a collection of semi-independent colleges, each with their own students and faculty and their own departments for all the various subjects. A university college is the founding college in a university. (University College London is a constituent college of the University of London.) So the name might sound comically redundant to Americans, but it makes sense in the British system.

ramraj07 4y ago
The Americans may close their mouth until they acknowledge the ridiculousness of The Los Angeles Angels.
- navi0 4y ago
  …of Anaheim :-)
- 0xcafecafe 4y ago
  I think that happens when other language nouns are added to English. Case in point "chai" tea and "naan" bread. Chai means tea and naan means bread but here we are...
  - bookofjoe 4y ago
    tuna fish
- nonameiguess 4y ago
  Anyone who isn't associated with the Angels banged on about the ridiculousness of their claimed home change (which notably did not involve an actual move) before they ever did it. They're nowhere near Los Angeles and have no historical association with the city. MLB never should have let them claim the name, despite the even more ridiculous "of Anaheim" qualifier. They're the Anaheim Angels, no matter what else they try to say they are.
- jjk166 4y ago