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According to Wikipedia Elon Musk is the founder of Tesla. That's how reliable Wikipedia is

pvorb 4y ago
Where did you read that? I highly doubt that such a change will get approved.
marak830 4y ago
"The company was incorporated as Tesla Motors, Inc. on July 1, 2003, by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning.[13]" No, it doesn't.
- IncRnd 4y ago
  "It was started in 2003 by Martin Eberhard, Dylan Stott, and Elon Musk (who also co-founded PayPal and SpaceX and is the CEO of SpaceX)." [1] [1] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla%2c_Inc%2e https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla%2c_Inc%2e
  - debesyla 4y ago
    1) 'simple' wikipedia isn't 'main' wikipedia - same as any other language wikipedias. 2) You can edit and fix mistakes if you see that as a mistake.
    - IncRnd 4y ago
      1) Nobody said anything about qualifying what wikipedia is. However, this is wikipedia, as one can see by looking at the domain in the url, wikipedia.org. Even so, there are many pages that cover tesla at wikipedia.org. Besides, if you just google for, "What companies has Elon Musk founded?" without quotes you will get a google listing of companies founded by Elon Musk. The very first of those is Tesla! 2) That was the point of the parent's comment! There are many pages at wikipedia that contain conflicting information.
      - debesyla 4y ago
        Okay, fair point about the second part - my mistake indeed. But I have to push back about the first part. The throwawayaug8 did say "According to Wikipedia Elon Musk is the founder of Tesla. That's how reliable Wikipedia is" - which I understood as a claim that "Wikipedia is unreliable". Then marak830 claimed that such claim is wrong and IncRnd claimed that the original claim is true because 'Simple' Wikipedia has an article with such text. But I just have to disagree here - I believe that the 'main' Wikipedia is mostly or more accurate than any other Wikipedia - be it 'simple' or 'lithuanian' (https://lt.wikipedia.org/ https://lt.wikipedia.org/). I believe that it's unfair to judge the main wikipedia project by using it's smaller 'translation' branches - the main one has hundreds of thousands of contributtors, and smaller wikipedias have way less. In a same way I wouldn't say that whole javascript is bad because there are some bad frameworks that are based on it. But I don't know, I am not an expert, I'm just a random wikipedia user :shrug_emoji:
  - irthomasthomas 4y ago
    PayPal was launched by a Tiel owned company that also bought another company that Musk didn't start, zip2. Musk became CEO of PayPal, and was fired a month later for incompetence.
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delecti 4y ago
Elon Musk is legally "a founder" of Tesla, but that's different from having founded Tesla, and that difference doesn't say anything about Wikipedia's credibility.

Where did you read that? I highly doubt that such a change will get approved.

"The company was incorporated as Tesla Motors, Inc. on July 1, 2003, by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning.[13]" No, it doesn't.

IncRnd 4y ago
"It was started in 2003 by Martin Eberhard, Dylan Stott, and Elon Musk (who also co-founded PayPal and SpaceX and is the CEO of SpaceX)." [1] [1] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla%2c_Inc%2e https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla%2c_Inc%2e
- debesyla 4y ago
  1) 'simple' wikipedia isn't 'main' wikipedia - same as any other language wikipedias. 2) You can edit and fix mistakes if you see that as a mistake.
  - IncRnd 4y ago
    1) Nobody said anything about qualifying what wikipedia is. However, this is wikipedia, as one can see by looking at the domain in the url, wikipedia.org. Even so, there are many pages that cover tesla at wikipedia.org. Besides, if you just google for, "What companies has Elon Musk founded?" without quotes you will get a google listing of companies founded by Elon Musk. The very first of those is Tesla! 2) That was the point of the parent's comment! There are many pages at wikipedia that contain conflicting information.
    - debesyla 4y ago
      Okay, fair point about the second part - my mistake indeed. But I have to push back about the first part. The throwawayaug8 did say "According to Wikipedia Elon Musk is the founder of Tesla. That's how reliable Wikipedia is" - which I understood as a claim that "Wikipedia is unreliable". Then marak830 claimed that such claim is wrong and IncRnd claimed that the original claim is true because 'Simple' Wikipedia has an article with such text. But I just have to disagree here - I believe that the 'main' Wikipedia is mostly or more accurate than any other Wikipedia - be it 'simple' or 'lithuanian' (https://lt.wikipedia.org/ https://lt.wikipedia.org/). I believe that it's unfair to judge the main wikipedia project by using it's smaller 'translation' branches - the main one has hundreds of thousands of contributtors, and smaller wikipedias have way less. In a same way I wouldn't say that whole javascript is bad because there are some bad frameworks that are based on it. But I don't know, I am not an expert, I'm just a random wikipedia user :shrug_emoji:
- irthomasthomas 4y ago
  PayPal was launched by a Tiel owned company that also bought another company that Musk didn't start, zip2. Musk became CEO of PayPal, and was fired a month later for incompetence.
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delecti 4y ago

Elon Musk is legally "a founder" of Tesla, but that's different from having founded Tesla, and that difference doesn't say anything about Wikipedia's credibility.