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> If someone thinks their only chance of going to college is Yale, they're wrong. They're not wrong, that's literally the lived experience of many, many folks.

> If someone thinks their only chance of going to college is Yale, they're wrong. They're not wrong, that's literally the lived experience of many, many folks. This is exactly the problem; you're not taking the perspective of people who actually are discriminated against in America. And I didn't say "of going to college". This isn't just about college, it's about opportunities for a high degree of success in a person's life. Yale doesn't represent "college" it represents "prestigious college that will open doors for the rest of their life". Some folks get one of those shots. Yale doesn't represent that to you, but it represents that to some folks, and if they're qualified for admittance, it makes perfect sense to prefer them over people who will get other shots at a highly successful life.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> This isn't just about college, it's about opportunities for a high degree of success in a person's life. Yale doesn't represent "college" it represents "prestigious college that will open doors for the rest of their life". Why is Yale the only shot for the child of a wealthy, well-connected person of one race but not the poor, unconnected child of another? > makes perfect sense to prefer them over people who will get other shots at a highly successful life This is the assumption that rightfully grinds people. Why do we assume because someone is Asian they will not face those barriers? And again, how convenient that the actual descendants of slave traders have reserved seats, too, at these prestigious institutions.
- TameAntelope 4y ago
  Yale is often the only shot at a high level of success for poorer, less educated racial groups. I'm not sure you're understanding me if you believe what I'm saying is designed to support wealthy, well-connected people generally. And there is no assumption about Asian success, there's cold, hard data about the comparative lack of discrimination in academia and in life outcomes. But it does sound like you're laser focusing here on Asian kids, and ignoring the many white kids who are also being bumped out of these programs. Odd...

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> This isn't just about college, it's about opportunities for a high degree of success in a person's life. Yale doesn't represent "college" it represents "prestigious college that will open doors for the rest of their life". Why is Yale the only shot for the child of a wealthy, well-connected person of one race but not the poor, unconnected child of another? > makes perfect sense to prefer them over people who will get other shots at a highly successful life This is the assumption that rightfully grinds people. Why do we assume because someone is Asian they will not face those barriers? And again, how convenient that the actual descendants of slave traders have reserved seats, too, at these prestigious institutions.

TameAntelope 4y ago
Yale is often the only shot at a high level of success for poorer, less educated racial groups. I'm not sure you're understanding me if you believe what I'm saying is designed to support wealthy, well-connected people generally. And there is no assumption about Asian success, there's cold, hard data about the comparative lack of discrimination in academia and in life outcomes. But it does sound like you're laser focusing here on Asian kids, and ignoring the many white kids who are also being bumped out of these programs. Odd...