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Sorry but you have legit no clue about neither the history nor the geopolitics you’re attempting to talk about. The Church issued equivalents of fatwas that ha
by elchangri 4y ago
Sorry but you have legit no clue about neither the history nor the geopolitics you’re attempting to talk about.
The Church issued equivalents of fatwas that have literally eradicated entire ethnic groups from the face of the planet. Never heard of a papal bull? Maybe the one that resulted in the largest genocide in the history of the world, to the note of 150 million native indians massacred?
Furthermore people will ask whatever they want, where they want, and there will be debates, and decisions will be made. It really isn’t mr jelliclesfarm who is going to start telling born and raised citizens to go live elsewhere.
- selimthegrim 4y agoThe problem is that forced conversions are definitely part of historical record - look at Qutayba bin Muslim in Central Asia. It is true other dynamics such as language shift and material gain also played a role and it was gradual for the most part.
- jelliclesfarm 4y agoSo it’s good that we have separation of religion and governance in modern democracies..having learnt from our historical past, yes? No religion will have special treatment or status over any other. This is win-win. Faith is personal, after all and this makes everyone free to follow their faith.
- elchangri 4y agoTbh this sounds like a nitpick. Prohibition does not have a 100% success rate, to state the obvious. But you really can’t compare a religion where its leader literally orders its members to forcibly convert others, to one where its law forbids it.
- selimthegrim 4y agoWhat did the Prophet say about no two religions prevailing in the Arabian Peninsula?
- elchangri 4y agoLook at the Canadian Indian residential school system or the Christian reconquest of Al-Andalus for textbook examples of forced conversions
- elchangri 4y agoThis just in https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-pope-alberta-apology-1.6530947 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-pope-albert...
- jelliclesfarm 4y agoI think we are talking about modern France and the role of religion in the country. Some religions have adapted for the modern times. Others haven’t. It is not right or wrong. I am just saying that not all religions are compatible everywhere. Times have changed and there are 53 Islamic countries that can support their faith. This is a good thing and encouraging for humanity, isn’t it? That everyone goes to the place where they are welcomed and valued for their personal faiths.
- elchangri 4y ago“Some religions have adapted to modern times” You mean those on the verge of extinction?