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This article made me _really_ curious what manner of awesomeness is going on at Two Sigma, but couldn't figure it out from the website. @spf13, any pointers on

This article made me _really_ curious what manner of awesomeness is going on at Two Sigma, but couldn't figure it out from the website. @spf13, any pointers on where to find a good article on why TS is cool?

moharoune 4y ago
I'm really curious about that also
lelandfe 4y ago
Two Sigma is notoriously tightlipped about everything. This guy's short post about interning there in 2015 is probably the most I've even seen about working there: https://evjang.com/2015/08/17/internship-experiences.html https://evjang.com/2015/08/17/internship-experiences.html
- kyawzazaw 4y ago
  In terms of "tightlippness", they don't come close to TGS Mgmt. All of their employees can't even list their employment at TGS Mgmt on LinkedIn.
  - oogali 4y ago
    I worked at a firm who had the same policy in 2014. It was more common than you may have realized.
    - Mandatum 4y ago
      Honestly, most boutique, government-involved security consulting firms have similar requirements. Given how much of tech is outsourced these days, obscurity is often the only line of defense some organisations have.
- marricks 4y ago
  So smart stock trading. Cool. The best and brightest are off solving math problems to make bank in the stock market.
ThrowawayFin 4y ago
Can’t speak for two sigma but I work in a similar company. They are generally only open enough to hire people, there is a huge competitive advantage in sharing as little as possible. Lots of finance firms have a bunch of interesting problems, from scaling to security and many are getting better at treating engineers well. But usually it comes down to the fact they pay really well.
- pm90 4y ago
  What kind of engineering culture do they have? Can people continue down the technical route without needing to jump into management?
nr2x 4y ago
One of the few places that will pay competitive to GOOG.
- Zaheer 4y ago
  *Much better than Google. Two Sigma is one of the top paying companies: https://www.levels.fyi/leaderboard/Software-Engineer/Entry-Level-Engineer/country/United-States/ https://www.levels.fyi/leaderboard/Software-Engineer/Entry-L... They pay _interns_ $70 per hour
  - nr2x 4y ago
    Depends on the role, in general they’re not going to blow Google out of the water.
    - kyawzazaw 4y ago
      They typically can for Individual Contributors that are software engineers
- kccqzy 4y ago
  GOOG is no longer known for high pay. Given the same level, even Meta has exceeded Google pay for a long time now. That's not to mention hedge funds like Two Sigma or Citadel.
pjmlp 4y ago
Looking at their careers postings, it seems spf13 will have to spend some time refreshing his C++ and Python skills.
yellow_lead 4y ago
Cool = Money
pm90 4y ago
> This article made me _really_ curious what manner of awesomeness is going on at Two Sigma This is probably a major reason he’s being hired. I haven’t experienced too much of this phenomenon but “famous” OSS folks get coddled and showered with money by many companies in hopes of attracting talent. And to be fair, its not the worst strategy. Instead of some silly values document they pay real engineers and usually give them a ton of freedom.

moharoune 4y ago

I'm really curious about that also

lelandfe 4y ago

Two Sigma is notoriously tightlipped about everything. This guy's short post about interning there in 2015 is probably the most I've even seen about working there: https://evjang.com/2015/08/17/internship-experiences.html https://evjang.com/2015/08/17/internship-experiences.html

kyawzazaw 4y ago
In terms of "tightlippness", they don't come close to TGS Mgmt. All of their employees can't even list their employment at TGS Mgmt on LinkedIn.
- oogali 4y ago
  I worked at a firm who had the same policy in 2014. It was more common than you may have realized.
  - Mandatum 4y ago
    Honestly, most boutique, government-involved security consulting firms have similar requirements. Given how much of tech is outsourced these days, obscurity is often the only line of defense some organisations have.
marricks 4y ago
So smart stock trading. Cool. The best and brightest are off solving math problems to make bank in the stock market.

ThrowawayFin 4y ago

Can’t speak for two sigma but I work in a similar company. They are generally only open enough to hire people, there is a huge competitive advantage in sharing as little as possible. Lots of finance firms have a bunch of interesting problems, from scaling to security and many are getting better at treating engineers well. But usually it comes down to the fact they pay really well.

pm90 4y ago
What kind of engineering culture do they have? Can people continue down the technical route without needing to jump into management?

nr2x 4y ago

One of the few places that will pay competitive to GOOG.

Zaheer 4y ago
*Much better than Google. Two Sigma is one of the top paying companies: https://www.levels.fyi/leaderboard/Software-Engineer/Entry-Level-Engineer/country/United-States/ https://www.levels.fyi/leaderboard/Software-Engineer/Entry-L... They pay _interns_ $70 per hour
- nr2x 4y ago
  Depends on the role, in general they’re not going to blow Google out of the water.
  - kyawzazaw 4y ago
    They typically can for Individual Contributors that are software engineers
kccqzy 4y ago
GOOG is no longer known for high pay. Given the same level, even Meta has exceeded Google pay for a long time now. That's not to mention hedge funds like Two Sigma or Citadel.

pjmlp 4y ago

Looking at their careers postings, it seems spf13 will have to spend some time refreshing his C++ and Python skills.

yellow_lead 4y ago

Cool = Money

pm90 4y ago

> This article made me _really_ curious what manner of awesomeness is going on at Two Sigma This is probably a major reason he’s being hired. I haven’t experienced too much of this phenomenon but “famous” OSS folks get coddled and showered with money by many companies in hopes of attracting talent. And to be fair, its not the worst strategy. Instead of some silly values document they pay real engineers and usually give them a ton of freedom.