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> At this rate they'll presumably be with humanity forever. Ψ So, that's a really interesting thought. Perhaps our solution to a permanent reminder of nuclear

> At this rate they'll presumably be with humanity forever. Ψ So, that's a really interesting thought. Perhaps our solution to a permanent reminder of nuclear destruction[1] could be hidden inside a plane of Unicode. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_nuclear_waste_warning_messages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_nuclear_waste_warnin...

wongarsu 4y ago
Maybe we can encode instructions on how to restart society in Unicode character names? After all basically every computer contains a list of them.
- bogwog 4y ago
  That did not end well for the Georgia guidestones…
  - ethbr0 4y ago
    Also thought about posting that this morning, but wasn't sure anyone else would get the reference. (As context for everyone else, some kook blew up some of the guidestones last week in the middle of the night)
    - _dain_ 4y ago
      Not so kooky, they were a call for genocide.
      - tomcatfish 4y ago
        From what I see, this was the maximally flame-y way to say what you said, and it's still inaccurate to call it "Not so kooky" as these commandments, while disagreeable to me, are not really that violent. 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. 2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity. 3. Unite humanity with a living new language. 4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason. 5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. 6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. 7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials. 8. Balance personal rights with social duties. 9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite. 10. Be not a cancer on the Earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Inscriptions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Inscriptio...
        iamevn 4y ago
        The whole thing stinks of of ecofascism. These first two read as pretty clear calls for eugenicism/genocide to me. > 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. > 2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
        astrange 4y ago
        #1 trends towards ecofascism but it's also a major theme in 70s environmentalism (was known as "the population bomb" and is now known as "degrowth") - it's false of course, but many people do believe it. #2 is actually quite unique I think. I mean you could say it's eugenics, but eugenicists are rarely in favor of "diversity".
        inkblotuniverse 4y ago
        Sure they are- some diversity's obviously good so the whole population doesn't get wiped out by one disease. There's a tradeoff between diversity and it's resistance to that sort of disaster, and unity/homogeneity and its resistances to other problems. You'd be a poor eugsnicist to not take that into account!
remram 4y ago
Maybe Unicode will feature the same kind of warnings one day. > This Unicode range is not a place of honor. No highly-esteemed symbol is registered here. > What was here represented cultural signs that were considered powerful in our time.

wongarsu 4y ago

Maybe we can encode instructions on how to restart society in Unicode character names? After all basically every computer contains a list of them.

bogwog 4y ago
That did not end well for the Georgia guidestones…
- ethbr0 4y ago
  Also thought about posting that this morning, but wasn't sure anyone else would get the reference. (As context for everyone else, some kook blew up some of the guidestones last week in the middle of the night)
  - _dain_ 4y ago
    Not so kooky, they were a call for genocide.
    - tomcatfish 4y ago
      From what I see, this was the maximally flame-y way to say what you said, and it's still inaccurate to call it "Not so kooky" as these commandments, while disagreeable to me, are not really that violent. 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. 2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity. 3. Unite humanity with a living new language. 4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason. 5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. 6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. 7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials. 8. Balance personal rights with social duties. 9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite. 10. Be not a cancer on the Earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Inscriptions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Inscriptio...
      - iamevn 4y ago
        The whole thing stinks of of ecofascism. These first two read as pretty clear calls for eugenicism/genocide to me. > 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. > 2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
        astrange 4y ago
        #1 trends towards ecofascism but it's also a major theme in 70s environmentalism (was known as "the population bomb" and is now known as "degrowth") - it's false of course, but many people do believe it. #2 is actually quite unique I think. I mean you could say it's eugenics, but eugenicists are rarely in favor of "diversity".
        inkblotuniverse 4y ago
        Sure they are- some diversity's obviously good so the whole population doesn't get wiped out by one disease. There's a tradeoff between diversity and it's resistance to that sort of disaster, and unity/homogeneity and its resistances to other problems. You'd be a poor eugsnicist to not take that into account!

remram 4y ago

Maybe Unicode will feature the same kind of warnings one day. > This Unicode range is not a place of honor. No highly-esteemed symbol is registered here. > What was here represented cultural signs that were considered powerful in our time.