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Jason, the cofounder of Schiit Audio (its pronounced exactly as you think it is) regularly posts updates about the company to an audiophile forum, and his posts

by Qub3d 4y ago

Jason, the cofounder of Schiit Audio (its pronounced exactly as you think it is) regularly posts updates about the company to an audiophile forum, and his posts regarding the supply chain problems they've fought in the past 2 years are fascinating: * https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/page-5824#post-16759741 https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of... * https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/page-5871#post-16797999 https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of... * https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/page-5951#post-16859594 https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of...

Lio 4y ago
> ...Schiit Audio (its pronounced exactly as you think it is)... I'm imagining "Downtown" Clay Davis from The Wire. No idea if that's correct or not but it makes me laugh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eU840lc38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eU840lc38
Dracophoenix 4y ago
Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while. I enjoy the company's no-nonsense designs, but as Audio Science Review and NwAvGuy have proven, objectively higher quality audiophile equipment can be bought or built for much less money than Schitt is asking for.
- Qub3d 4y ago
  Objectivity and audiophile in the same sentence always makes me suspicious, especially when you are looking at the 100s to 1000s of extra dollars for 3-5% improvement on measurements (and good luck detecting that in an ABX test). I moved to a modi/magni stack from a Fiio portable and I don't know if I'll ever bother to upgrade again.
  - MuffinFlavored 4y ago
    Ironically, I'd be pretty hard pressed to believe you could tell the "quality" from a Fiio DAC compared to an iPhone
    - deleted 4y ago
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    - bee_rider 4y ago
      IIRC the iPhone dac/amp is supposed to be fairly decent for driving, like, normal headphones. At least in the past (not sure in the post-dongle days).
      - ZekeSulastin 4y ago
        The Apple USB-C dongle is actually pretty well regarded as an inexpensive step up from onboard audio for “normal” headphones, and some folks will use it as a starter DAC to pair with an amp for less “normal” headphones …
        SSLy 4y ago
        sadly, it doesn't support mic if on windows - at least last time I've tried
        bee_rider 4y ago
        That's interesting. It looks really tiny on their site, so I guess the analog signal must be generated in the computer? So it seem more like a "PC manufacturers typically put more effort into their USB implementation than their 3.5mm implementation" sort of thing, I guess?
        oasisbob 4y ago
        It's even more interesting, there really is a tiny DAC embedded in the Lightning connector: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Lightning+to+Headphone+Jack+Adapter+Teardown/67562 https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Lightning+to+Headphone...
- xeromal 4y ago
  Got any recommendations? I have some Schiit equipment.
  - seanp2k2 4y ago
    RME ADI-2 was and still is my endgame DAC + headphone amp. Requires a funky adapter to use in dual output balanced mode, but boy does that make the HD800S sing. https://www.rme-audio.de/adi-2-pro-fs-be.html https://www.rme-audio.de/adi-2-pro-fs-be.html ASR Review: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-rme-adi-2-pro-comparison-to-adi-2-dac.2682/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r...
  - Dracophoenix 4y ago
    Schitt's good [1] if that what you already have. Unless you made your purchase a decade ago or feel dissatisfied with the product in some way, Schitt isn't a bad choice. One plus is that Schitt also provides paid upgrades for some of its higher end boxes. My "issue", for lack of better phrasing, is that Schitt is not the most optimal in terms of performance per dollar. As far as recommendations are concerned, there are many on this webpage: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?pages/Reviews/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?pages/Rev... If you have a particular featureset, utility, budget, design, genres of music, etc. I'd be happy to offer what I can, but I'd also recommend that you take the time to review what works for you. After all, it's your ears, not mine. [1] ;)
    - xeromal 4y ago
      I'm very happy with Schitt. I just asked out of curiosity because the person mentioned equipment that is cheaper and better. My Fulla E was $120 so I was curious what is good in that price range! All good though. I'm very happy as-is.
      - Dracophoenix 4y ago
        > the person mentioned equipment that is cheaper and better I'm the same person. But it's good to hear that you're fine with what you have. The review site I linked should statisfy your curiosity.
- olkingcole 4y ago
  The newer stuff (magni/modi 3) has fixed the Audio Science Review guy's complaints and he now recommends those models. I went through all this when I was shopping for reasonably (to me) priced gear. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-schiit-modi-3-dac.4742/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... > I am recommending the Schiit Modi 3 without reservations. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-a30-and-schiit-magni-3-headphone-amps.4024/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... > Both Topping A30 and Schiit Magni 3 are recommended for budget friendly choices in headphone amplifiers. Let your preferences in looks, usability, etc. guide you in your selection.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    >The newer stuff (magni/modi 3) has fixed the Audio Science Review guy's complaints and he now recommends those models. Now, I might be cynical, but this can also happen in a shakedown (bad review, money exchange, oh, good now) scenario - whether with updated version of the product in between or not. It's not like thosr are uncommon.
xeromal 4y ago
I have a Fulla E from these guys. Love it!
discardable_dan 4y ago
This writing is insufferable. If I removed every errant newline and "bear with me" sentence, the posts would be half as long and twice as interesting.
- brainfog 4y ago
  ok
RF_Savage 4y ago
On the whole the Schiit Audio origin story and growing pains one can read in those threads is very educational to anyone considering running a niche hardware company. Tons of real world experience on what worked and did not work. Not too much info on running hardware companies out there.

by Qub3d 4y ago

Lio 4y ago

> ...Schiit Audio (its pronounced exactly as you think it is)... I'm imagining "Downtown" Clay Davis from The Wire. No idea if that's correct or not but it makes me laugh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eU840lc38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eU840lc38

Dracophoenix 4y ago

Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while. I enjoy the company's no-nonsense designs, but as Audio Science Review and NwAvGuy have proven, objectively higher quality audiophile equipment can be bought or built for much less money than Schitt is asking for.

Qub3d 4y ago
Objectivity and audiophile in the same sentence always makes me suspicious, especially when you are looking at the 100s to 1000s of extra dollars for 3-5% improvement on measurements (and good luck detecting that in an ABX test). I moved to a modi/magni stack from a Fiio portable and I don't know if I'll ever bother to upgrade again.
- MuffinFlavored 4y ago
  Ironically, I'd be pretty hard pressed to believe you could tell the "quality" from a Fiio DAC compared to an iPhone
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - bee_rider 4y ago
    IIRC the iPhone dac/amp is supposed to be fairly decent for driving, like, normal headphones. At least in the past (not sure in the post-dongle days).
    - ZekeSulastin 4y ago
      The Apple USB-C dongle is actually pretty well regarded as an inexpensive step up from onboard audio for “normal” headphones, and some folks will use it as a starter DAC to pair with an amp for less “normal” headphones …
      - SSLy 4y ago
        sadly, it doesn't support mic if on windows - at least last time I've tried
      - bee_rider 4y ago
        That's interesting. It looks really tiny on their site, so I guess the analog signal must be generated in the computer? So it seem more like a "PC manufacturers typically put more effort into their USB implementation than their 3.5mm implementation" sort of thing, I guess?
        oasisbob 4y ago
        It's even more interesting, there really is a tiny DAC embedded in the Lightning connector: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Lightning+to+Headphone+Jack+Adapter+Teardown/67562 https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Lightning+to+Headphone...
xeromal 4y ago
Got any recommendations? I have some Schiit equipment.
- seanp2k2 4y ago
  RME ADI-2 was and still is my endgame DAC + headphone amp. Requires a funky adapter to use in dual output balanced mode, but boy does that make the HD800S sing. https://www.rme-audio.de/adi-2-pro-fs-be.html https://www.rme-audio.de/adi-2-pro-fs-be.html ASR Review: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-rme-adi-2-pro-comparison-to-adi-2-dac.2682/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r...
- Dracophoenix 4y ago
  Schitt's good [1] if that what you already have. Unless you made your purchase a decade ago or feel dissatisfied with the product in some way, Schitt isn't a bad choice. One plus is that Schitt also provides paid upgrades for some of its higher end boxes. My "issue", for lack of better phrasing, is that Schitt is not the most optimal in terms of performance per dollar. As far as recommendations are concerned, there are many on this webpage: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?pages/Reviews/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?pages/Rev... If you have a particular featureset, utility, budget, design, genres of music, etc. I'd be happy to offer what I can, but I'd also recommend that you take the time to review what works for you. After all, it's your ears, not mine. [1] ;)
  - xeromal 4y ago
    I'm very happy with Schitt. I just asked out of curiosity because the person mentioned equipment that is cheaper and better. My Fulla E was $120 so I was curious what is good in that price range! All good though. I'm very happy as-is.
    - Dracophoenix 4y ago
      > the person mentioned equipment that is cheaper and better I'm the same person. But it's good to hear that you're fine with what you have. The review site I linked should statisfy your curiosity.
olkingcole 4y ago
The newer stuff (magni/modi 3) has fixed the Audio Science Review guy's complaints and he now recommends those models. I went through all this when I was shopping for reasonably (to me) priced gear. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-schiit-modi-3-dac.4742/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... > I am recommending the Schiit Modi 3 without reservations. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-a30-and-schiit-magni-3-headphone-amps.4024/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r... > Both Topping A30 and Schiit Magni 3 are recommended for budget friendly choices in headphone amplifiers. Let your preferences in looks, usability, etc. guide you in your selection.
- coldtea 4y ago
  >The newer stuff (magni/modi 3) has fixed the Audio Science Review guy's complaints and he now recommends those models. Now, I might be cynical, but this can also happen in a shakedown (bad review, money exchange, oh, good now) scenario - whether with updated version of the product in between or not. It's not like thosr are uncommon.

xeromal 4y ago

I have a Fulla E from these guys. Love it!

discardable_dan 4y ago

This writing is insufferable. If I removed every errant newline and "bear with me" sentence, the posts would be half as long and twice as interesting.

brainfog 4y ago
ok

RF_Savage 4y ago

On the whole the Schiit Audio origin story and growing pains one can read in those threads is very educational to anyone considering running a niche hardware company. Tons of real world experience on what worked and did not work. Not too much info on running hardware companies out there.