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There's a quote from this article under the Cable Viewership section that I found interesting. "Cable viewership across the three major cable news networks — CN
by pcorsaro 4y ago
There's a quote from this article under the Cable Viewership section that I found interesting. "Cable viewership across the three major cable news networks — CNN, Fox News and MSNBC — is, on average, down 19% in prime time for the first half of this year compared to the first half of 2021. Those losses skew heavily toward CNN and MSNBC, which are down 47% and 33%, respectively. Fox's ratings are up 12% in that six-month span."
That's a very weird, biased way of phrasing that. The two left leaning news organizations are down quite a bit, but the right leaning organization is actually up, but we're going to lump them all together and make it look like they're all down at first glance.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoThey are back to back sentences. Pretty bad attempt at obfuscating. The first sentence claims data “across” all channels, and the following sentence breaks it down.
- starkd 4y agoBut they included Foxnews in the first sentence where they claimed it was down "across the board".
- lotsofpulp 4y agoIs that not what across the board means? There are 3 news channels, all of them have to be added together for an across the board measurement.
- DiggyJohnson 4y agoNot at all - in my opinion. “Across the board” means something closer “true in every case”. Though as I type this, I realize some people my think of it as “in total.”
- bee_rider 4y agoNote that "across the board" does not actually appear in the article.
- DiggyJohnson 4y agoN.b. indeed, cheers
- lotsofpulp 4y agoYou are right, that is what across the board means. I was mixing up what the person who replied to me wrote with what I wrote. Oops!
- carbadtraingood 4y ago"Across the board" means "in every instance" not "in aggregate", at least in my experience.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoYes, that is correct. I was misremembering what I read. It was “across the three major cable news networks” Which I paraphrased as “Across all the channels” Which the person replying to me changed to “Across the board”.
- bee_rider 4y agoNote that "across the board" is not actually a quote here (despite being in quotes).
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- spread_love 4y agoNo, they said it is down "on average." That is true, and immediately clarified in the following sentence.
- ohiovr 4y agoIf Foxnews and Skynews were down 54% and 33% and CNN was up 19% how would they write it? Still on average? Or those mean right wing news outlets are doing terrible, but the good Left wing CNN is taking up the lead!
- spread_love 4y agoThey listed the top 3 cable networks. If Skynews was one of those, presumably it would be included...
- rootusrootus 4y agoThat's digging really hard to find a conspiracy. They didn't mince words, in two sentences they gave the full details. All in the same font, same paragraph.
- johncearls 4y agoI think you mean bias, not conspiracy.
- pcorsaro 4y agoThe paragraph starts by saying viewership is down across the the three major news networks. That’s not exactly across the board, but means the same thing.
- spread_love 4y agoCable viewership across the three major cable news networks is, on average, down 19%. It's specifically not "across the board."
- fullshark 4y agoWhen your team has control -> stick your head in the sand. When the other team has control -> bathe in outrage.
- Grim-444 4y agoSimilarly, if your political ideology gets their way, it's a "success of democracy", while if anyone else's ideas get traction, it's the "end of democracy". When, ironically, that very thought pattern is itself the end of democracy.
- quetzthecoatl 4y agoIn the same lines : "judicial activism" and "judicial coup".
- landemva 4y agoOutrage over 'populism' in 2016.
- bee_rider 4y agoWhere does the bias come in? You would have to stop reading literally mid-paragraph to be mislead.
- computerphage 4y agoSounds like it comes in the first half of the paragraph then
- JoshCole 4y agoIt? That? The? What are you talking about? It seems hypocritical to imply that meanings ought to be understood divorced from context while your own post doesn't meet the standard.
- bee_rider 4y agoThat every given sentence, when extracted from context, should be totally free of bias, is a ridiculous expectation.
- pjbeam 4y agoThe point of a paragraph is to thread together sentences into meaning beyond that contained in them individually.
- spread_love 4y agoI just started reading A Tale of Two Cities, I assume the book is just about "the best of times." Otherwise the intro is written with incredible bias.
- bee_rider 4y ago> I just started reading [...] with incredible bias. wow how could you
- GenerocUsername 4y agoPost title repeats the same 'all together' bias, so it is likely the single strongest sentence in the article despite being wrong when viewed in detail
- V__ 4y agoFrom an outside perspective, I always have to chuckle when someone calls CNN, MSNBC left-leaning and FOX right-leaning. One is a full-blown conspiracy-theory right-wing "news" network, and the other two are just regular sensationalized news channels. Does the US even have left-leaning news?
- nsxwolf 4y agoAmerican leftists have always shared the same view as you. The left-leaning news networks are simply straight news, unbiased, doing it right... and everything their ideological opponents watch is far-right propaganda.
- V__ 4y agoThis is not my view at all. News can be biased/sensationalized, even when it's neither left nor right. CNN and MSNBC are (as far as I can tell) the tv equivalent of clickbait. They are just (compared to the extremes of FOX) centrist about it. The only thing I would call straight news in the US would be PBS.
- DiggyJohnson 4y agoWhich is hilarious because that’s how everyone feels about their particular taste (taste for bias) in their news.
- nsxwolf 4y agoSelf-identified conservatives understand that Fox News is intentionally aligned with their ideology.
- DiggyJohnson 4y agoExactly, that’s a clearer way of wording what I was trying to point out.
- carbadtraingood 4y agoAs a leftist who feels the Democratic party is a center-right party, networks like CNN and MSNBC come across as deeply biased but not particularly "left". Maybe Liberal, but certainly not "Left".
- datalopers 4y agoCNN and MSNBC quote viewership. Fox quotes ratings. Not the same thing.
- jquery 4y agoHmm, I just noticed that. Can you elucidate the difference?
- ohiovr 4y agoThe difference helps CNN look better. Ratings is all that matters to a broadcaster.
- spread_love 4y agoNielsen reports viewership and ratings for all three networks. I know you're desperate here but at least don't play dumb.