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I find it deeply concerning we are still very much in bed with Putin. We should have taken drastic steps early and maybe be half way in tapping alternative sour

by cersa8 4y ago

I find it deeply concerning we are still very much in bed with Putin. We should have taken drastic steps early and maybe be half way in tapping alternative sources. The fact Germany is happily closing nuclear power plants shows Europe is in for a rude awakening when Putin tightens the vice.

severino 4y ago
And who do we buy oil/gas from? Venezuela? Iran? Saudi Arabia? United States? I don't see a reason why those countries are better than Russia.
- chasd00 4y ago
  Unfortunately it doesn’t even matter. The infrastructure simply doesn’t exist and takes many months to build. Germany could choose to buy from anywhere but it doesn’t matter, there’s no way to get the gas to where it’s needed in time for winter.
  - heavenlyblue 4y ago
    Well unfortunately Germany doesn’t have a leader strong enough to announce a military regime and ration the heating in the country.
- marvinvz 4y ago
  Because none of those plan on taking over europe. Russia still has the goal to directly control all slavic countries and indirectly control the rest of Europe. Most europeans remember the USSR.
- konschubert 4y ago
  None of these countries are actively trying to erase another country from the map right now. The US is a democratic country so far, Russia is not. It’s incredibly childish, stupid and dangerous to pretend that these countries are all equally evil.
  - severino 4y ago
    Does being a democracy make the US a better country than the others? If it's the voters, and not a guy, who decides to invade and take over your country, then is it OK? And while none of those countries may be involved in a military conflict right now, they've been in the past. Recently. So given there is no good country selling gas right now, I prefer to get the cheapest one. Thanks.
    - konschubert 4y ago
      "Given that there is no perfect food, they are all the same to me. And thus I prefer to eat dirt, since it's the cheapest."
AnonymousPlanet 4y ago
Have you done the numbers on how many nuclear power stations you need to replace all gas and oil heating in Germany? What would be your guess? 2 or 3? Or maybe it's more than France has at the moment. Just a thought...

by cersa8 4y ago

severino 4y ago

And who do we buy oil/gas from? Venezuela? Iran? Saudi Arabia? United States? I don't see a reason why those countries are better than Russia.

chasd00 4y ago
Unfortunately it doesn’t even matter. The infrastructure simply doesn’t exist and takes many months to build. Germany could choose to buy from anywhere but it doesn’t matter, there’s no way to get the gas to where it’s needed in time for winter.
- heavenlyblue 4y ago
  Well unfortunately Germany doesn’t have a leader strong enough to announce a military regime and ration the heating in the country.
marvinvz 4y ago
Because none of those plan on taking over europe. Russia still has the goal to directly control all slavic countries and indirectly control the rest of Europe. Most europeans remember the USSR.
konschubert 4y ago
None of these countries are actively trying to erase another country from the map right now. The US is a democratic country so far, Russia is not. It’s incredibly childish, stupid and dangerous to pretend that these countries are all equally evil.
- severino 4y ago
  Does being a democracy make the US a better country than the others? If it's the voters, and not a guy, who decides to invade and take over your country, then is it OK? And while none of those countries may be involved in a military conflict right now, they've been in the past. Recently. So given there is no good country selling gas right now, I prefer to get the cheapest one. Thanks.
  - konschubert 4y ago
    "Given that there is no perfect food, they are all the same to me. And thus I prefer to eat dirt, since it's the cheapest."

AnonymousPlanet 4y ago

Have you done the numbers on how many nuclear power stations you need to replace all gas and oil heating in Germany? What would be your guess? 2 or 3? Or maybe it's more than France has at the moment. Just a thought...