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I feel like this is easier if you’re a non-lever-puller. If you think it’s wrong to pull the lever if it causes anyone’s death who wasn’t dying anyway, then mos

by Others 4y ago

I feel like this is easier if you’re a non-lever-puller. If you think it’s wrong to pull the lever if it causes anyone’s death who wasn’t dying anyway, then most of these are easy. Except the “you can’t see the track” one I suppose :P

Robotbeat 4y ago
Easier but more people die.
dx034 4y ago
I think it's never right to pull the lever, unless there aren't any humans on the other track. I'd sacrifice an animal or objects, but people should never be sacrificed for other people, unless they actively choose to.
- mperdemata 4y ago
  For me, pulling and not pulling the lever are the same. Both are actions. So I have to choose one of them.
- implements 4y ago
  “You can’t treat another person as a means to an end in way that denies their fundamental human dignity” is how the principle was explained to me. https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/German_Constitutional_Court_prohibits_shooting_down_hijacked_passenger_planes https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/German_Constitutional_Court_pro... “The court also found that the act [shooting down hijacked plane] is incompatible with the constitutional right to life and the human dignity. The act would turn passengers and crew of a hijacked plane, victims themselves, into "objects" - not only to the terrorists, but also to the state, which does not have the authority to kill innocents. If their deaths would be used to save others they would be reduced to mere "things" at the pleasure of the state. Further, the court believes that the arguments of the federal government, saying that passengers in such a situation would die anyway, are invalid, as human lives deserve protection regardless of the expected duration of their existence and that it is impossible to fully assess the situation leading to an eventual invocation of the act.”
- Hayarotle 4y ago
  Extreme situation that could be a counterexample to your claim: Dr. Evil is 90 years old, his consciousness is slowly fading away, and he is going to die in a week. He is almost ready to release a bomb that will torture kill half of the world population. If you pull the lever Dr. Evil will die today and you will save all those people. You are the only one who can pull the lever. Do you pull the lever, or do you stick to your principle of not sacrificing other people who don't want to be sacrificed?

by Others 4y ago

Robotbeat 4y ago

Easier but more people die.

dx034 4y ago

I think it's never right to pull the lever, unless there aren't any humans on the other track. I'd sacrifice an animal or objects, but people should never be sacrificed for other people, unless they actively choose to.

mperdemata 4y ago
For me, pulling and not pulling the lever are the same. Both are actions. So I have to choose one of them.
implements 4y ago
“You can’t treat another person as a means to an end in way that denies their fundamental human dignity” is how the principle was explained to me. https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/German_Constitutional_Court_prohibits_shooting_down_hijacked_passenger_planes https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/German_Constitutional_Court_pro... “The court also found that the act [shooting down hijacked plane] is incompatible with the constitutional right to life and the human dignity. The act would turn passengers and crew of a hijacked plane, victims themselves, into "objects" - not only to the terrorists, but also to the state, which does not have the authority to kill innocents. If their deaths would be used to save others they would be reduced to mere "things" at the pleasure of the state. Further, the court believes that the arguments of the federal government, saying that passengers in such a situation would die anyway, are invalid, as human lives deserve protection regardless of the expected duration of their existence and that it is impossible to fully assess the situation leading to an eventual invocation of the act.”
Hayarotle 4y ago
Extreme situation that could be a counterexample to your claim: Dr. Evil is 90 years old, his consciousness is slowly fading away, and he is going to die in a week. He is almost ready to release a bomb that will torture kill half of the world population. If you pull the lever Dr. Evil will die today and you will save all those people. You are the only one who can pull the lever. Do you pull the lever, or do you stick to your principle of not sacrificing other people who don't want to be sacrificed?