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I'm pretty sure that is about banning bad actors across the whole ecosystem. You know, because Minecraft is a game targeted at kids. And maybe you don't someon

I'm pretty sure that is about banning bad actors across the whole ecosystem. You know, because Minecraft is a game targeted at kids. And maybe you don't someone spouting racist/sexist garbage at them all day.

robonerd 4y ago
Authoritarians always cite "bad actors" as their pretext for seizing more power.
- eganist 4y ago
  > Authoritarians This is Microsoft, and in a competitive landscape, no less. Not sure if this maps.
  - robonerd 4y ago
    If you think a corporation like Microsoft isn't attracted to power, you're nuts.
    - Spivak 4y ago
      Microsoft is definitely laughing maniacally over their power to ban a 12 year old from a video game. Moderation is hard work, expensive, and doesn’t scale. And Minecraft doesn’t have even a theoretical sinister benefit of being able to sway public opinion with it. It’s just a cost center to keep the ecosystem non-toxic.
      - robonerd 4y ago
        > Moderation is hard work, expensive, and doesn’t scale. And yet they are seeking the power to ban people from playing on their own private servers. It's a blatant power grab, but I guess it not real authoritarianism unless they're laughing like a cartoon villain when they do it, right? Give me a break. All corporations are power hungry by nature; and the largest and most powerful of them have demonstrated this nature time and time again to become the way they are today.
      - matheweis 4y ago
        Then they should outsource the moderation to the server owners and let them mod their own servers however they like.
iasay 4y ago
The problem is the ecosystem owners seem to be evolving into the main bad actors. Well two of them at least.
car_analogy 4y ago
Or maybe I don't want my kid's chat and gameplay analyzed and sold by Microsoft, to be used against them in the future.
matheweis 4y ago
Nope. I don’t want Microsoft to police what sort of speech my kids are and aren’t allowed to have, nor do I want them to get to decide what the consequences for breaking the rules are. What I’d like to be able to do is set up a server and let our kids and their friends play on it, without anyone else. That would protect the kids just fine. This doesn’t take a globally unique Microsoft account, it takes a player guid. I’m pretty sure the capability is all there, too, but they just decided to lock it behind their ecosystem.
justsomeguy123 4y ago
> You know, because Minecraft is a game targeted at kids. A survival game where you are utterly alone fighting zombies and all kinds of monsters that come at night while you have no weapons or shelter. Yeap... kids stuff.

robonerd 4y ago

Authoritarians always cite "bad actors" as their pretext for seizing more power.

eganist 4y ago
> Authoritarians This is Microsoft, and in a competitive landscape, no less. Not sure if this maps.
- robonerd 4y ago
  If you think a corporation like Microsoft isn't attracted to power, you're nuts.
  - Spivak 4y ago
    Microsoft is definitely laughing maniacally over their power to ban a 12 year old from a video game. Moderation is hard work, expensive, and doesn’t scale. And Minecraft doesn’t have even a theoretical sinister benefit of being able to sway public opinion with it. It’s just a cost center to keep the ecosystem non-toxic.
    - robonerd 4y ago
      > Moderation is hard work, expensive, and doesn’t scale. And yet they are seeking the power to ban people from playing on their own private servers. It's a blatant power grab, but I guess it not real authoritarianism unless they're laughing like a cartoon villain when they do it, right? Give me a break. All corporations are power hungry by nature; and the largest and most powerful of them have demonstrated this nature time and time again to become the way they are today.
    - matheweis 4y ago
      Then they should outsource the moderation to the server owners and let them mod their own servers however they like.

iasay 4y ago

The problem is the ecosystem owners seem to be evolving into the main bad actors. Well two of them at least.

car_analogy 4y ago

Or maybe I don't want my kid's chat and gameplay analyzed and sold by Microsoft, to be used against them in the future.

matheweis 4y ago

Nope. I don’t want Microsoft to police what sort of speech my kids are and aren’t allowed to have, nor do I want them to get to decide what the consequences for breaking the rules are. What I’d like to be able to do is set up a server and let our kids and their friends play on it, without anyone else. That would protect the kids just fine. This doesn’t take a globally unique Microsoft account, it takes a player guid. I’m pretty sure the capability is all there, too, but they just decided to lock it behind their ecosystem.

justsomeguy123 4y ago

> You know, because Minecraft is a game targeted at kids. A survival game where you are utterly alone fighting zombies and all kinds of monsters that come at night while you have no weapons or shelter. Yeap... kids stuff.