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The Norwegian Meteorological Institute has an excellent free HTTP/JSON weather API that covers the globe. No signup required. https://developer.yr.no https://d

by knadh 4y ago

The Norwegian Meteorological Institute has an excellent free HTTP/JSON weather API that covers the globe. No signup required. https://developer.yr.no https://developer.yr.no

hmottestad 4y ago
I've set up an iPad in my hallway to show their SVG weather charts. Super simple to integrate into a simple home made dashboard website. Here is Oslo: https://www.yr.no/en/content/1-72837/meteogram.svg https://www.yr.no/en/content/1-72837/meteogram.svg
- worldmerge 4y ago
  That's a great idea
gspr 4y ago
Yr (Norwegian word meaning drizzle rain) is indeed truly excellent, but it should be noted that while its coverage is global, their forecasts outside of Europe are based on lower-accuracy models.
- xorcist 4y ago
  Do they actually do these forecasts themselves, aren't they cooperating with other meteorological agencies and sharing not only data but also forecasts?
  - gspr 4y ago
    My understanding is that those shared global models are of somewhat lower fidelity.
JKCalhoun 4y ago
Thank you, there are so many weather API, someone suggesting a good one helps.
Thlom 4y ago
Their weather app is also pretty good. It comes with an English language option.
- bongobingo1 4y ago
  iOS: https://apps.apple.com/jo/app/yr-no/id490989206 https://apps.apple.com/jo/app/yr-no/id490989206 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=no.nrk.yr&hl=no https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=no.nrk.yr&hl=n...
- account42 4y ago
  Does the app provide anything valuable that you don't get with the website?
dieselgate 4y ago
Apple api - nope. Norwegian Meteorological Institute api - yup. That’s mostly in jest though (sent from an iphone) but also because Apple bought darksky (which was my preferred weather api/source in the past) and I’d assume that’s a big part of/rolled into the weatherkit offerings now?
- aaronbrethorst 4y ago
  Check out the giant red warning at the top of this page: https://darksky.net/forecast/40.7127,-74.0059/us12/en https://darksky.net/forecast/40.7127,-74.0059/us12/en
  - lstamour 4y ago
    Interesting. The notice doesn’t appear within the Dark Sky app at all. But the Weather app does have a lot of improvements, I think. Perhaps under iOS 16 we’ll just see the Dark Sky app disappear and get replaced by the Apple Weather app.
    - aaronbrethorst 4y ago
      I assume the Dark Sky app simply disappears from the App Store on December 31, and existing copies display an error message directing you to the weather app.
- dzek69 4y ago
  I loved dark sky, I'm using it for my own smart home app, but I should move away from it much earlier, because it just became so inaccurate I can no longer rely on it. I don't know if this is for my region only, or a country (Poland) or whatever, but if a forecast says it will rain for 7 days straight and there is no rain, but the rain falled immediately after forecast stopped showing any rain then it's worthless to use. I don't know if Weather Kit will provide the same accuracy. I'm in a process of switching to Open Weather Map right now, I started when apple announced Weather Kit to Dark Sky users via mail. But I will try this Norwegian API as well.
kioleanu 4y ago
Lucky for them that they’re not a public service in Germany, otherwise they would get sued for unfair competition (and lose): https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2020/03/12/kostenlose-warnwetter-app-vom-dwd-per-gerichtsurteil-darf-nicht-mehr-angeboten-werden-nur-gegen-entgeld/ https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2020/03/12/kostenlose-warnwet...
- zuzun 4y ago
  They still publish all their data free of charge and are required to do so by law. For weather forecast, they dump all parameters of their recent model runs. So I guess I'm saying that you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially...
  - dloss 4y ago
    Like Meteocool? https://github.com/v4lli/meteocool https://github.com/v4lli/meteocool Developed by a former colleague of mine. Open source and my favorite for 2h forecasts about upcoming rain in Germany.
  - leonry 4y ago
    The app „Tiny Weather Forecast Germany“ (https://codeberg.org/Starfish/TinyWeatherForecastGermany https://codeberg.org/Starfish/TinyWeatherForecastGermany) seems to exactly make use of that. There are probably others, but it is the only one I found on F-Droid.
- leobg 4y ago
  For context, from the court ruling (BGH, DeepL translation): Originally, it was envisaged that all services provided by the DWD to the general public for public dissemination via modern means of communication, such as mobile devices via an app, as specified in Section 4 (1) DWDG should be free of charge (Explanatory Memorandum to the Government Draft of a First Law Amending the Law on the German Meteorological Service, BT-Drucks. 18/11533, S. 22). The Bundesrat has commented on this and raised competition law concerns about the tax-funded DWD making meteorological and climatological services available to the end consumer free of charge, because such a free charge constitutes an impediment to established private-sector providers and erects barriers to market entry for new providers or new offerings (explanatory memorandum to the government draft of a first law amending the law on the German Meteorological Service, BT-Drucks. 18/11533, S. 25). The version of Section 6 (2a) DWDG that has become law is based on the resolution recommendation and report of the Bundestag Committee on Transport and Digital Infrastructure (BT-Drucks. 18/12836, p. 2), according to which not all services provided by the DWD to the general public pursuant to Section 4 (1) DWDG should be free of charge, but only those pursuant to Section 4 (1) Nos. 3 and 7 DWDG.
farmin 4y ago
As a farmer in Australia, I use yr all the time as a alternate model to our BOM. It's proven to be very good for rainfall forecasts.
PostOnce 4y ago
New Zealanders pay taxes for a weather agency and a separate climate agency, neither of which provides weather local for most farms (one farm client of my agtech automation business is an hour from town; the weather report only applies to town). Additionally, the weather service is a "state owned enterprise" expected to turn a profit. So everyone who needs farm weather uses yr.no After covid, I'm going to go talk to some politicians about our weather forecasting problem.
- tjpnz 4y ago
  Who are you planning to talk to? A National MP will be in favour of just selling it and then bungle the IPO returning very little to the government. A Labour MP will propose opening it up but then get distracted trying to pass other legislation that nobody wants. That aside you might make some progress talking to the Greens if you framed it as an environmental issue.
- kmlx 4y ago
  > After covid what do you mean? are there still restrictions in NZ?
  - PostOnce 4y ago
    Maskless face-to-face meetings are more effective than masked ones, in my opinion. Nevermind more effective than email or a phone call. I'd like to meet when I can have a frank discussion without a mask on so that we can gauge one another's sincerity and receptiveness to an idea.
    - roca 4y ago
      Why can't you have a maskless face-to-face meeting? I'm having maskless face-to-face meetings in Auckland all the time.
      - PostOnce 4y ago
        Well, my coworker's wife wound up in the hospital because he brought covid home, and I don't want mine to. I wear a mask, he never did. Case load hasn't dropped much yet. Also, even if I didn't care, there's no guarantee any of the politicians will meet me maskless yet.
pyuser583 4y ago
Thank you!! That’s really cool!
mrtksn 4y ago
Free is always good but when it's fee you also get no guarantees and commitments. Apple and the free options probably target different segments.
sph 4y ago
It's what the GNOME weather applet uses. I thought it's weird it uses a Norwegian service for my UK weather, but makes sense now.
fishywang 4y ago
I've been searching for weather apps on Android since Apple acquired DarkSky, and eventually settled on Yr. Would recommend them.
RivieraKid 4y ago
Does it have equally good data as WeatherKit? I vaguely remember that yr.no shows raw ECMWF data. WeatherKit probably provides weather.com data, which are postprocessed from ECMWF and perhaps other models and they provide the best forecasts. The main issue with raw model data is that they are not adjusted for local altitude.
- digthenerdy 4y ago
  According to https://developer.apple.com/WeatherKit https://developer.apple.com/WeatherKit WeatheKit uses a forecast from Apple, and the data sources listed on https://WeatherKit.apple.com/legal-attribution.html https://WeatherKit.apple.com/legal-attribution.html don’t include The Weather Channel or weather.com.
  - RivieraKid 4y ago
    Oh ok. So they're probably using the acquired DarkSky forecast.
Abishek_Muthian 4y ago
Thank you, Is this only forecast? Is there anything like this which provides reliable historical data? I think weather underground did i.e. until Apple gulped it.

by knadh 4y ago

The Norwegian Meteorological Institute has an excellent free HTTP/JSON weather API that covers the globe. No signup required. https://developer.yr.no https://developer.yr.no

hmottestad 4y ago

I've set up an iPad in my hallway to show their SVG weather charts. Super simple to integrate into a simple home made dashboard website. Here is Oslo: https://www.yr.no/en/content/1-72837/meteogram.svg https://www.yr.no/en/content/1-72837/meteogram.svg

worldmerge 4y ago
That's a great idea

gspr 4y ago

Yr (Norwegian word meaning drizzle rain) is indeed truly excellent, but it should be noted that while its coverage is global, their forecasts outside of Europe are based on lower-accuracy models.

xorcist 4y ago
Do they actually do these forecasts themselves, aren't they cooperating with other meteorological agencies and sharing not only data but also forecasts?
- gspr 4y ago
  My understanding is that those shared global models are of somewhat lower fidelity.

JKCalhoun 4y ago

Thank you, there are so many weather API, someone suggesting a good one helps.

Thlom 4y ago

Their weather app is also pretty good. It comes with an English language option.

bongobingo1 4y ago
iOS: https://apps.apple.com/jo/app/yr-no/id490989206 https://apps.apple.com/jo/app/yr-no/id490989206 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=no.nrk.yr&hl=no https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=no.nrk.yr&hl=n...
account42 4y ago
Does the app provide anything valuable that you don't get with the website?

dieselgate 4y ago

Apple api - nope. Norwegian Meteorological Institute api - yup. That’s mostly in jest though (sent from an iphone) but also because Apple bought darksky (which was my preferred weather api/source in the past) and I’d assume that’s a big part of/rolled into the weatherkit offerings now?

aaronbrethorst 4y ago
Check out the giant red warning at the top of this page: https://darksky.net/forecast/40.7127,-74.0059/us12/en https://darksky.net/forecast/40.7127,-74.0059/us12/en
- lstamour 4y ago
  Interesting. The notice doesn’t appear within the Dark Sky app at all. But the Weather app does have a lot of improvements, I think. Perhaps under iOS 16 we’ll just see the Dark Sky app disappear and get replaced by the Apple Weather app.
  - aaronbrethorst 4y ago
    I assume the Dark Sky app simply disappears from the App Store on December 31, and existing copies display an error message directing you to the weather app.
dzek69 4y ago
I loved dark sky, I'm using it for my own smart home app, but I should move away from it much earlier, because it just became so inaccurate I can no longer rely on it. I don't know if this is for my region only, or a country (Poland) or whatever, but if a forecast says it will rain for 7 days straight and there is no rain, but the rain falled immediately after forecast stopped showing any rain then it's worthless to use. I don't know if Weather Kit will provide the same accuracy. I'm in a process of switching to Open Weather Map right now, I started when apple announced Weather Kit to Dark Sky users via mail. But I will try this Norwegian API as well.

kioleanu 4y ago

Lucky for them that they’re not a public service in Germany, otherwise they would get sued for unfair competition (and lose): https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2020/03/12/kostenlose-warnwetter-app-vom-dwd-per-gerichtsurteil-darf-nicht-mehr-angeboten-werden-nur-gegen-entgeld/ https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2020/03/12/kostenlose-warnwet...

zuzun 4y ago
They still publish all their data free of charge and are required to do so by law. For weather forecast, they dump all parameters of their recent model runs. So I guess I'm saying that you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially...
- dloss 4y ago
  Like Meteocool? https://github.com/v4lli/meteocool https://github.com/v4lli/meteocool Developed by a former colleague of mine. Open source and my favorite for 2h forecasts about upcoming rain in Germany.
- leonry 4y ago
  The app „Tiny Weather Forecast Germany“ (https://codeberg.org/Starfish/TinyWeatherForecastGermany https://codeberg.org/Starfish/TinyWeatherForecastGermany) seems to exactly make use of that. There are probably others, but it is the only one I found on F-Droid.
leobg 4y ago
For context, from the court ruling (BGH, DeepL translation): Originally, it was envisaged that all services provided by the DWD to the general public for public dissemination via modern means of communication, such as mobile devices via an app, as specified in Section 4 (1) DWDG should be free of charge (Explanatory Memorandum to the Government Draft of a First Law Amending the Law on the German Meteorological Service, BT-Drucks. 18/11533, S. 22). The Bundesrat has commented on this and raised competition law concerns about the tax-funded DWD making meteorological and climatological services available to the end consumer free of charge, because such a free charge constitutes an impediment to established private-sector providers and erects barriers to market entry for new providers or new offerings (explanatory memorandum to the government draft of a first law amending the law on the German Meteorological Service, BT-Drucks. 18/11533, S. 25). The version of Section 6 (2a) DWDG that has become law is based on the resolution recommendation and report of the Bundestag Committee on Transport and Digital Infrastructure (BT-Drucks. 18/12836, p. 2), according to which not all services provided by the DWD to the general public pursuant to Section 4 (1) DWDG should be free of charge, but only those pursuant to Section 4 (1) Nos. 3 and 7 DWDG.

farmin 4y ago

As a farmer in Australia, I use yr all the time as a alternate model to our BOM. It's proven to be very good for rainfall forecasts.

PostOnce 4y ago

New Zealanders pay taxes for a weather agency and a separate climate agency, neither of which provides weather local for most farms (one farm client of my agtech automation business is an hour from town; the weather report only applies to town). Additionally, the weather service is a "state owned enterprise" expected to turn a profit. So everyone who needs farm weather uses yr.no After covid, I'm going to go talk to some politicians about our weather forecasting problem.

tjpnz 4y ago
Who are you planning to talk to? A National MP will be in favour of just selling it and then bungle the IPO returning very little to the government. A Labour MP will propose opening it up but then get distracted trying to pass other legislation that nobody wants. That aside you might make some progress talking to the Greens if you framed it as an environmental issue.
kmlx 4y ago
> After covid what do you mean? are there still restrictions in NZ?
- PostOnce 4y ago
  Maskless face-to-face meetings are more effective than masked ones, in my opinion. Nevermind more effective than email or a phone call. I'd like to meet when I can have a frank discussion without a mask on so that we can gauge one another's sincerity and receptiveness to an idea.
  - roca 4y ago
    Why can't you have a maskless face-to-face meeting? I'm having maskless face-to-face meetings in Auckland all the time.
    - PostOnce 4y ago
      Well, my coworker's wife wound up in the hospital because he brought covid home, and I don't want mine to. I wear a mask, he never did. Case load hasn't dropped much yet. Also, even if I didn't care, there's no guarantee any of the politicians will meet me maskless yet.

pyuser583 4y ago

Thank you!! That’s really cool!

mrtksn 4y ago

Free is always good but when it's fee you also get no guarantees and commitments. Apple and the free options probably target different segments.

sph 4y ago

It's what the GNOME weather applet uses. I thought it's weird it uses a Norwegian service for my UK weather, but makes sense now.

fishywang 4y ago

I've been searching for weather apps on Android since Apple acquired DarkSky, and eventually settled on Yr. Would recommend them.

RivieraKid 4y ago

Does it have equally good data as WeatherKit? I vaguely remember that yr.no shows raw ECMWF data. WeatherKit probably provides weather.com data, which are postprocessed from ECMWF and perhaps other models and they provide the best forecasts. The main issue with raw model data is that they are not adjusted for local altitude.

digthenerdy 4y ago
According to https://developer.apple.com/WeatherKit https://developer.apple.com/WeatherKit WeatheKit uses a forecast from Apple, and the data sources listed on https://WeatherKit.apple.com/legal-attribution.html https://WeatherKit.apple.com/legal-attribution.html don’t include The Weather Channel or weather.com.
- RivieraKid 4y ago
  Oh ok. So they're probably using the acquired DarkSky forecast.

Abishek_Muthian 4y ago

Thank you, Is this only forecast? Is there anything like this which provides reliable historical data? I think weather underground did i.e. until Apple gulped it.