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Not to be confused with the other Helios OS - https://github.com/axelmuhr/Helios-NG https://github.com/axelmuhr/Helios-NG

by atrn 4y ago

ncmncm 4y ago
Yeah, pretty rude to stomp the name.
- Shared404 4y ago
  > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. "What, this comment doesn't do either of those?". Taken in the context of your other comments in this section, it does.
lproven 4y ago
Good point. I wrote about that recently: https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/heliosng/ https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/heliosng/ Very interesting OS that is FOSS now. By v3 it ran on multiple CPU architectures. With some of the manycore CPUs appearing in recent years, this is crying out for a revival.
__d 4y ago
Yes. It'd be a shame if this effort were to continue to use the same name, especially given they're both operating systems. Drew?
- ddevault 4y ago
  The name of the complete system is called Ares, and Helios is a small component of that. Essentially, to most people, it's an implementation detail/internal codename that will not really see much use for marketing efforts. It does not look like the other Helios project is going anywhere, so I'm not too concerned with the naming conflict right now.
  - __d 4y ago
    The other "Helios" project was a commercial operating system from Perihelion Software, which was subsequently kinda open sourced after the company went bust (which is the GitHub repo posted). There are a couple of books about it from Prentice-Hall: ISBN 0-13-381237-5 and ISBN 0-13-386004-3, plus various academic papers, commercial software for the OS (mostly development tools), open source software (X11, gcc, other stuff), etc, etc. It was the default operating system of the Atari Abaq/ATW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Transputer_Workstation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Transputer_Workstation), and also ran on various other Transputer, i860, and various other early parallel computer systems. It too was a micro-kernel, with a very Plan9-like global name system implemented by applications plugging into the name server protocol. If nothing else, it might be of interest to read up on it, but given the similarities between the projects, it seems to be an unfortunate naming collision.

Not to be confused with the other Helios OS - https://github.com/axelmuhr/Helios-NG https://github.com/axelmuhr/Helios-NG

by atrn 4y ago

Not to be confused with the other Helios OS - https://github.com/axelmuhr/Helios-NG https://github.com/axelmuhr/Helios-NG

ncmncm 4y ago

Yeah, pretty rude to stomp the name.

Shared404 4y ago
> Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. "What, this comment doesn't do either of those?". Taken in the context of your other comments in this section, it does.

lproven 4y ago

Good point. I wrote about that recently: https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/heliosng/ https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/heliosng/ Very interesting OS that is FOSS now. By v3 it ran on multiple CPU architectures. With some of the manycore CPUs appearing in recent years, this is crying out for a revival.

__d 4y ago

Yes. It'd be a shame if this effort were to continue to use the same name, especially given they're both operating systems. Drew?

ddevault 4y ago
The name of the complete system is called Ares, and Helios is a small component of that. Essentially, to most people, it's an implementation detail/internal codename that will not really see much use for marketing efforts. It does not look like the other Helios project is going anywhere, so I'm not too concerned with the naming conflict right now.
- __d 4y ago
  The other "Helios" project was a commercial operating system from Perihelion Software, which was subsequently kinda open sourced after the company went bust (which is the GitHub repo posted). There are a couple of books about it from Prentice-Hall: ISBN 0-13-381237-5 and ISBN 0-13-386004-3, plus various academic papers, commercial software for the OS (mostly development tools), open source software (X11, gcc, other stuff), etc, etc. It was the default operating system of the Atari Abaq/ATW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Transputer_Workstation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Transputer_Workstation), and also ran on various other Transputer, i860, and various other early parallel computer systems. It too was a micro-kernel, with a very Plan9-like global name system implemented by applications plugging into the name server protocol. If nothing else, it might be of interest to read up on it, but given the similarities between the projects, it seems to be an unfortunate naming collision.