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I hope so! I am tired of explaining people that it's actually Google's fault they didn't receive my mail. I'll be happy when they pay dearly for the disservice
by amenod 4y ago
I hope so! I am tired of explaining people that it's actually Google's fault they didn't receive my mail. I'll be happy when they pay dearly for the disservice they do to e-mail.
- gnarbarian 4y agoAre you using S/MIME certificates?
- smartbit 4y agoWhy are you asking? Is there a relation between spam handling and usage of S/MIME?
- Kadin 4y agoLast time I looked into it (I run a mailserver and mailman list for one of my hobby groups), S/MIME wouldn't change your "spamminess" reputation score. DKIM, DMARC, and SPF do, though, and basically are table stakes if you want your mail (especially mailinglist messages) to go through to people at major providers.
- amenod 4y agoNo, would that help? I am however using SPF and one of DKIM / DMARC (I forget which). But anyway, I can live with a mail missing here and there. It is just annoying and isn't right.
- Avamander 4y agoIt's not really Google's fault to be honest. The need to warm up new IP's has existed for a while and a lot of providers do it. Any postmaster with experience knows how and why it's done.
- black_puppydog 4y agoThe root comment literally explains that that's BS. Every post master knows that it is done. But it doesn't have to be that way, although it certainly can feel like it when a company like google decides to not budge on the matter.
- Avamander 4y ago> But it doesn't have to be that way Sure, if you want spam. Don't like it, get people to deploy DKIM, then the domains will be used for reputation purposes. What the root comment says is BS, the industry uses these methods for a very real and practical reasons.
- BenjiWiebe 4y agoNo, it can be a different way and still not have spam, by trusting/tracking domains instead of IP addresses.
- Avamander 4y agoI did write how using domains for reputation purposes instead could happen. The second sentence.
- cmroanirgo 4y agoDKIM in no way helps to get past the cartels' "reputation" filters. I send maybe one email every few months to microsoft accounts & it's always received as spam. My server setup & ip have been solid for a decade. It's only ever the globalist providers that block me. Google is 50/50 I get through. Everyone else (eg Protonmail) is no problem.
- Avamander 4y agoIt absolutely does. Also that was an "if, then potentially" sentence about reputation tracking in the future. In your case, it's likely that your volume and sending patterns aren't consistent and trustworthy enough to keep track of your domain and IP reputation. You have to understand that they get millions of letters from new domains each day, sent from compromised Wordpress blogs and the alike. If you want to be deliverable, you have to be consistent and not suspicious. Or, more likely, there's some other mistake in your configuration somewhere.
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