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I'm not sure what part of my comment you're addressing. The only real point I made was that his plight was shameless. I understand if saying that makes people

I'm not sure what part of my comment you're addressing. The only real point I made was that his plight was shameless. I understand if saying that makes people upset, but it doesn't make it less true.

michaels0620 15y ago
And repeating it doesn't make it any more true. In what sense his is plea for help shameless? Should he simply sit back, do nothing, and hope something works out? It's not like he is taking from others for his own benefit. Indeed as others have pointed out, it's likely that his campaign has benefited others, not only himself.
- AndrewMoffat 15y ago
  I did not say it does not benefit anyone else. I just said it was shameless. shameless: 2. done without shame; without decency or modesty modesty: 1. having or showing a moderate or humble estimate of one's merits, importance, etc.;
  - iron_ball 15y ago
    In what philosophical framework does modesty or even decency come before preservation of one's own life? This isn't Breaking Bad -- making a website and asking for help is pretty well unimpeachable IMO.
    - AndrewMoffat 15y ago
      He's not morally wrong, I'm saying the nature of what he's doing is shameless. Clearly this is an important issue to him, but he's vastly overestimating his importance to everyone else. If every person with a need had a poster plastered around the city with their name on it, every city would be covered from sidewalk to rooftop. I'm just calling it like I see it.
      - palish 15y ago
        Could we all just agree to disagree and leave it at that...?
        AndrewMoffat 15y ago
        I still have about 680 karma to burn through.
        unreal37 15y ago
        Now only 590...
        Garbage 15y ago
        And now even less than that. (567)
        AndrewMoffat 15y ago
        Now even less than that! (565)
      - erikpukinskis 15y ago
        he's vastly overestimating his importance to everyone else I think you're vastly underestimating the number of people in the startup community to who he's very important. He's not Steve Jobs, but he's someone a lot of us care about.
      - azernik 15y ago
        Not many people have a need for several hours of your time which will literally save their life. Just saying, everyone has needs, but the number of people with needs this urgent is very low (tens of thousands in the US, maybe?). In any case, take a look at the marrow match site that Amit links; it requires people who send in swabs to commit to donating to any patient that matches, not just Amit. This is probably going to help a lot of people besides just him.
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  - gks 15y ago
    Life and Death. At what point do you admit to yourself you love your life and want to continue to live? At that point, that's when shamelessness and modesty are thrown on the window and you do what you can to try to survive.
  - suhastech 15y ago
    If whatever you are doing works out for you, it would be cool to see the point you are trying to make by commenting on other peoples' life-threatening needs shamelessly. I did not say that you are cynical. I just said you are shameless.

I'm not sure what part of my comment you're addressing. The only real point I made was that his plight was shameless. I understand if saying that makes people upset, but it doesn't make it less true.

michaels0620 15y ago

And repeating it doesn't make it any more true. In what sense his is plea for help shameless? Should he simply sit back, do nothing, and hope something works out? It's not like he is taking from others for his own benefit. Indeed as others have pointed out, it's likely that his campaign has benefited others, not only himself.

AndrewMoffat 15y ago
I did not say it does not benefit anyone else. I just said it was shameless. shameless: 2. done without shame; without decency or modesty modesty: 1. having or showing a moderate or humble estimate of one's merits, importance, etc.;
- iron_ball 15y ago
  In what philosophical framework does modesty or even decency come before preservation of one's own life? This isn't Breaking Bad -- making a website and asking for help is pretty well unimpeachable IMO.
  - AndrewMoffat 15y ago
    He's not morally wrong, I'm saying the nature of what he's doing is shameless. Clearly this is an important issue to him, but he's vastly overestimating his importance to everyone else. If every person with a need had a poster plastered around the city with their name on it, every city would be covered from sidewalk to rooftop. I'm just calling it like I see it.
    - palish 15y ago
      Could we all just agree to disagree and leave it at that...?
      - AndrewMoffat 15y ago
        I still have about 680 karma to burn through.
        unreal37 15y ago
        Now only 590...
        Garbage 15y ago
        And now even less than that. (567)
        AndrewMoffat 15y ago
        Now even less than that! (565)
    - erikpukinskis 15y ago
      he's vastly overestimating his importance to everyone else I think you're vastly underestimating the number of people in the startup community to who he's very important. He's not Steve Jobs, but he's someone a lot of us care about.
    - azernik 15y ago
      Not many people have a need for several hours of your time which will literally save their life. Just saying, everyone has needs, but the number of people with needs this urgent is very low (tens of thousands in the US, maybe?). In any case, take a look at the marrow match site that Amit links; it requires people who send in swabs to commit to donating to any patient that matches, not just Amit. This is probably going to help a lot of people besides just him.
    - 15y ago
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- gks 15y ago
  Life and Death. At what point do you admit to yourself you love your life and want to continue to live? At that point, that's when shamelessness and modesty are thrown on the window and you do what you can to try to survive.
- suhastech 15y ago
  If whatever you are doing works out for you, it would be cool to see the point you are trying to make by commenting on other peoples' life-threatening needs shamelessly. I did not say that you are cynical. I just said you are shameless.