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I can't seem to find information on whether it is possible to purchase the ticket as a non German citizen.

by mahesh_rm 4y ago

morelisp 4y ago
Yes it is.
- b3lvedere 4y ago
  Awesome! I might do some holiday travel :)
kuschku 4y ago
Buying the 9 euro ticket is possible anonymously with cash at any train station, so yeah, you should be able to.
tauchunfall 4y ago
>People who use local/regional transport will be able to buy it anywhere in Germany via channels such as bahn.de and DB Navigator. It will also be available from DB Reisezentrum (travel centre) staff and ticket machines at stations. Ticket machines can be used without need to identify.
curiousfab 4y ago
I couldn't imagine why not. You just to to a ticket machine and buy it, no need for a passport or anything. Enjoy - Sylt is waiting for you, and you'll be there along with a million like-minded people!
- riidom 4y ago
  Invade bavaria instead. As "thank you" for their threat of blocking the ticket :)
- Bayart 4y ago
  > I couldn't imagine why not. The single market. Refusing to sell to other EU citizens is very illegal.
  - GuB-42 4y ago
    Not illegal as far as I know. These are almost certainly subsidized tickets, financed with taxpayer money, it is common to restrict the sales to those who pay taxes in the covered area. And I don't see how it could be illegal, it is like forcing Germany to provide health care for the French and vice versa.
    - Bayart 4y ago
      > it is like forcing Germany to provide health care for the French and vice versa That's literally how it works [1]. EU citizens are treated the same as local citizens in every country. [1]: https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/europe-travel-insurance/ehic/ https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/europe-travel-insurance/ehi...
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      - oynqr 4y ago
        Maybe in some dream world. Hospital visits are usually covered, but going to a GP often involves paying in cash and only getting reimbursed later at home.
        distances 4y ago
        In which country? My experience has been that the European health insurance card works very well and you get the same service as locals do.
    - p_l 4y ago
      AFAIK the legal way to limit subsidized tickets is that the specific "membership" required to get the subsidized fare is available to all EU citizens - for example in Warsaw we can get lower fare based holographic stamp available from the city on the basis of paying taxes in the city - i.e. it doesn't matter what passport you hold, it matters that your tax residency is in Warsaw. And healthcare operates by your local health system reimbursing the system in country you were visiting - you need to have European Health Insurance Card on you, from your healthcare provider, which helps route the payments appropriately.
- RGamma 4y ago
  Pack the Schultenbräu! Sylt, it's on!
- GuB-42 4y ago
  It is still a good question, because there are often special conditions to these kinds of offer. For example, in Paris, some "all zones" tickets are only available to residents (pass Navigo). The Japanese "Japan Rail Pass" is only available to tourists, and the "Interrail" pass is complicated: you have to reside in Europe but you can only use it in your own country for a single round trip.
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biafra 4y ago
I am 100% sure anyone can buy it. And I am almost equally sure, anyone using it will not get fined.
_Microft 4y ago
The tickets aren't personalized (some regular monthly passes for public transport are/were though), so you should be fine. Since they aren't personalized and there is no way to check who the owner actually is, I would even expect them to be transferable. Edit: looks like I was wrong -> see replies. You can also search for "9-Euro-Ticket übertragbar" (übertragbar = transferable) yourself to get a number of different German sources for that.
- dmurray 4y ago
  Normally DB day tickets, even bought at the ticket machine, are not transferable. You have to write your name on the back - in theory, before the first time you encounter a ticket controller - and be prepared to produce ID matching the name.
  - _ph_ 4y ago
    Honestly, this is the first time I ever hear of this, and I almost go back to steam engine trains :p
- germanier 4y ago
  This ticket is personalized.
himlion 4y ago
Yes, it would be a violation of EU law to restrict it.
- mrunkel 4y ago
  No it wouldn't. You could say it's only for citizens of EU member states. That's a restriction that wouldn't violate any EU law.
  - Mordisquitos 4y ago
    Another hypothetical alternative which wouldn't violate EU law (not that they have any reason of using it) would be to make the ticket only valid to people who legally reside in Germany, regardless of their nationality.
  - himlion 4y ago
    Correct, that wouldn't violate it. For German citizens only would.
chrisseaton 4y ago
> I can't seem to find information on whether it is possible to purchase the ticket as a non German citizen. Biggest hurdle will be getting a Germany ticket machine to accept a regular credit card! But otherwise, isn't discriminating based on nationality for good and services illegal?
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- Freak_NL 4y ago
  Credit cards aren't regular in Europe. They accept Maestro debit cards though, which almost everyone has, and cash.
  - chrisseaton 4y ago
    > Credit cards aren't regular in Europe. Pretty sure it's just Germany being pig-headed about it for some reason. Everywhere else in Europe is perfectly happy to accept a credit card. I do 99.999% of all my spending on a credit card, like most millennial people or younger, and the only people in the developed world who this is a problem for is the Germans.
    - dabc015f 4y ago
      > Pretty sure Why not at least google some statistics before you lose yourself in some pig-headed chauvinistic rant about what in the most charitable interpretation amounts to nothing at all.
    - switch007 4y ago
      Come on that’s not fair. Don’t the Dutch hate credit cards too?
      - Freak_NL 4y ago
        Not hate, just not a system used very much here. Most people with a credit card have one for online purchases (I do), but those are a minority. Even that is no longer really needed with big stores like Steam and Amazon (.de and .nl) accepting the local IDEAL standard for banking transfers. Paying with a credit card in shops? That's just not done excepting American tourists, same as in a number of European countries. It's contactless debit cards mostly. Building a credit rating by using a credit card is not part of the system.
rostigerpudel 4y ago
Yes, anyone can purchase it. However, contrary to what is said multiple times in this thread, it is NOT transferable. You have to put your name on it and have some form of ID with you. https://www.rnd.de/politik/9-euro-ticket-ab-wann-erhaeltlich-und-wo-kann-man-es-kaufen-NA3GKNEIRFEJBAERT6I63VFFDQ.html https://www.rnd.de/politik/9-euro-ticket-ab-wann-erhaeltlich... Google Translate: https://www-rnd-de.translate.goog/politik/9-euro-ticket-ab-wann-erhaeltlich-und-wo-kann-man-es-kaufen-NA3GKNEIRFEJBAERT6I63VFFDQ.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-rnd-de.translate.goog/politik/9-euro-ticket-ab-w...

I can't seem to find information on whether it is possible to purchase the ticket as a non German citizen.

morelisp 4y ago

Yes it is.

b3lvedere 4y ago
Awesome! I might do some holiday travel :)

kuschku 4y ago

Buying the 9 euro ticket is possible anonymously with cash at any train station, so yeah, you should be able to.

tauchunfall 4y ago

>People who use local/regional transport will be able to buy it anywhere in Germany via channels such as bahn.de and DB Navigator. It will also be available from DB Reisezentrum (travel centre) staff and ticket machines at stations. Ticket machines can be used without need to identify.

curiousfab 4y ago

I couldn't imagine why not. You just to to a ticket machine and buy it, no need for a passport or anything. Enjoy - Sylt is waiting for you, and you'll be there along with a million like-minded people!

riidom 4y ago
Invade bavaria instead. As "thank you" for their threat of blocking the ticket :)
Bayart 4y ago
> I couldn't imagine why not. The single market. Refusing to sell to other EU citizens is very illegal.
- GuB-42 4y ago
  Not illegal as far as I know. These are almost certainly subsidized tickets, financed with taxpayer money, it is common to restrict the sales to those who pay taxes in the covered area. And I don't see how it could be illegal, it is like forcing Germany to provide health care for the French and vice versa.
  - Bayart 4y ago
    > it is like forcing Germany to provide health care for the French and vice versa That's literally how it works [1]. EU citizens are treated the same as local citizens in every country. [1]: https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/europe-travel-insurance/ehic/ https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/europe-travel-insurance/ehi...
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    - oynqr 4y ago
      Maybe in some dream world. Hospital visits are usually covered, but going to a GP often involves paying in cash and only getting reimbursed later at home.
      - distances 4y ago
        In which country? My experience has been that the European health insurance card works very well and you get the same service as locals do.
  - p_l 4y ago
    AFAIK the legal way to limit subsidized tickets is that the specific "membership" required to get the subsidized fare is available to all EU citizens - for example in Warsaw we can get lower fare based holographic stamp available from the city on the basis of paying taxes in the city - i.e. it doesn't matter what passport you hold, it matters that your tax residency is in Warsaw. And healthcare operates by your local health system reimbursing the system in country you were visiting - you need to have European Health Insurance Card on you, from your healthcare provider, which helps route the payments appropriately.
RGamma 4y ago
Pack the Schultenbräu! Sylt, it's on!
GuB-42 4y ago
It is still a good question, because there are often special conditions to these kinds of offer. For example, in Paris, some "all zones" tickets are only available to residents (pass Navigo). The Japanese "Japan Rail Pass" is only available to tourists, and the "Interrail" pass is complicated: you have to reside in Europe but you can only use it in your own country for a single round trip.

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biafra 4y ago

I am 100% sure anyone can buy it. And I am almost equally sure, anyone using it will not get fined.

_Microft 4y ago

The tickets aren't personalized (some regular monthly passes for public transport are/were though), so you should be fine. Since they aren't personalized and there is no way to check who the owner actually is, I would even expect them to be transferable. Edit: looks like I was wrong -> see replies. You can also search for "9-Euro-Ticket übertragbar" (übertragbar = transferable) yourself to get a number of different German sources for that.

dmurray 4y ago
Normally DB day tickets, even bought at the ticket machine, are not transferable. You have to write your name on the back - in theory, before the first time you encounter a ticket controller - and be prepared to produce ID matching the name.
- _ph_ 4y ago
  Honestly, this is the first time I ever hear of this, and I almost go back to steam engine trains :p
germanier 4y ago
This ticket is personalized.

himlion 4y ago

Yes, it would be a violation of EU law to restrict it.

mrunkel 4y ago
No it wouldn't. You could say it's only for citizens of EU member states. That's a restriction that wouldn't violate any EU law.
- Mordisquitos 4y ago
  Another hypothetical alternative which wouldn't violate EU law (not that they have any reason of using it) would be to make the ticket only valid to people who legally reside in Germany, regardless of their nationality.
- himlion 4y ago
  Correct, that wouldn't violate it. For German citizens only would.

chrisseaton 4y ago

> I can't seem to find information on whether it is possible to purchase the ticket as a non German citizen. Biggest hurdle will be getting a Germany ticket machine to accept a regular credit card! But otherwise, isn't discriminating based on nationality for good and services illegal?

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Freak_NL 4y ago
Credit cards aren't regular in Europe. They accept Maestro debit cards though, which almost everyone has, and cash.
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  > Credit cards aren't regular in Europe. Pretty sure it's just Germany being pig-headed about it for some reason. Everywhere else in Europe is perfectly happy to accept a credit card. I do 99.999% of all my spending on a credit card, like most millennial people or younger, and the only people in the developed world who this is a problem for is the Germans.
  - dabc015f 4y ago
    > Pretty sure Why not at least google some statistics before you lose yourself in some pig-headed chauvinistic rant about what in the most charitable interpretation amounts to nothing at all.
  - switch007 4y ago
    Come on that’s not fair. Don’t the Dutch hate credit cards too?
    - Freak_NL 4y ago
      Not hate, just not a system used very much here. Most people with a credit card have one for online purchases (I do), but those are a minority. Even that is no longer really needed with big stores like Steam and Amazon (.de and .nl) accepting the local IDEAL standard for banking transfers. Paying with a credit card in shops? That's just not done excepting American tourists, same as in a number of European countries. It's contactless debit cards mostly. Building a credit rating by using a credit card is not part of the system.

rostigerpudel 4y ago

Yes, anyone can purchase it. However, contrary to what is said multiple times in this thread, it is NOT transferable. You have to put your name on it and have some form of ID with you. https://www.rnd.de/politik/9-euro-ticket-ab-wann-erhaeltlich-und-wo-kann-man-es-kaufen-NA3GKNEIRFEJBAERT6I63VFFDQ.html https://www.rnd.de/politik/9-euro-ticket-ab-wann-erhaeltlich... Google Translate: https://www-rnd-de.translate.goog/politik/9-euro-ticket-ab-wann-erhaeltlich-und-wo-kann-man-es-kaufen-NA3GKNEIRFEJBAERT6I63VFFDQ.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-rnd-de.translate.goog/politik/9-euro-ticket-ab-w...