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Yeah, that's equivalent to "stand back, and stand by" /s

• gadders 4y ago
  • antiterra 4y ago
    Where are you exactly where people say ‘call to arms’ as anything other than idiomatic call to action?
    • gadders 4y ago
      Well I think to be fair-minded if "call to arms" is idiomatic, then you have to assume that "stand back, and stand by" is as well. You can't arbitrarily take one literally and one not. If they both idiomatic, then they are both equally harmless.
      • notreallyserio 4y ago
        One of those phrases is told to groups of people that regularly worships guns in public. The other is not. Context counts for a lot.
        • gadders 4y ago
          One of those communications is aimed at people that regularly riot. Context counts for a lot.
          • phailhaus 4y ago
            Which group is that? Can you name them? Who is their leader? Trump told the Proud Boys specifically to "stand back and stand by". They are an armed group. You are equating the Proud Boys with the amorphous "LGBTQ+ friends" community, and then saying that the latter "regularly riot". That's not tenable. I think you are deliberately engaging in bad-faith arguments. You are literally saying "gay people are the same as organized armed militias." In fact, you said it's "worse."
            • gadders 4y ago
              • phailhaus 4y ago
                As others have noted, now you are clearly arguing in bad faith. Nowhere in Lightfoot's tweet did she mention Antifa. In fact, she called out "the LGBTQ+ community" specifically. So how did you jump to "she's telling Antifa to commit violence"? Gay people are Antifa now? You are all over the place.
                • notreallyserio 4y ago
                  It's classic whataboutism and a deliberate failure to acknowledge context. I've noticed that a lot of folks on the right ignore context whenever possible. And of course by typing this out I'm inviting them to say "how dare you I'm not right wing I just use their talking points and tactics and agree with their positions". Ok they won't say the last bits.
              • FireBeyond 4y ago
                Weird. Members of The Proud Boys (in fact, people they publicly list as their leadership) have been arrested multiple times in my town for drawing weapons (paintbull guns, pepper spray, baseball bats, guns) at protests, firing shots at protests, shooting people at protests. Don't go on about Antifa as some armed organized group and act like the Proud Boys are "just a bunch of friends disappointed in the direction of society" or some shit. Like you say, "that's not even remotely close to being factual". The Proud Boys literally have an entire section on their website showing them violently attacking people: https://proudboyspnw.com/fafo/ https://proudboyspnw.com/fafo/ Sources: https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/520702-416146-portland-proud-boy-leader-tiny-toese-shot-by-opposing-group-at-wa-clash-city-says https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/520702-416146-portland-proud-boy... Some more: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/01/proud-boy-tusitala-tiny-toese-faces-felony-charges-in-clash-near-abandoned-portland-kmart.html https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/01/proud-boy-tusitala-... https://proudboyspnw.com/chapters/ https://proudboyspnw.com/chapters/ - you're right, absolutely not organized, whatsoever.
          • Karawebnetwork 4y ago
            Name me one LGBTQ riot that is not The Stonewall riots of 1969.
  • ece 4y ago
    She is talking about defending her rights in court.