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Your assumption would be wrong. They were never asked their age and even if they were they would know to ask me what to do because I told them that they would g

Your assumption would be wrong. They were never asked their age and even if they were they would know to ask me what to do because I told them that they would get locked out if they put in the wrong numbers. And as expected they can no longer post to YouTube for some reason even though there are plenty of YouTubers below 13.

scarface74 4y ago
So you’re complaining that Google is trying to follow the law and you’re making your kids lie about their age? You don’t see the problem with this?
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  Nowadays you have to lie about a lot of things if you want to use the internet efficiently (or sometimes at all).
  - scarface74 4y ago
    So you mean a government regulation by politicians made the internet worse? You don’t say… See also, the millions of cookie banners that infest every web page because of the EU.
    - Aachen 4y ago
      Ads and spam is what's ruining everyone's experience. If we would pay for services rendered then there is no need for tracking. If we could effectively prosecute and/or block spammers then there would be no need for anti-spam algorithms (from email to services like twitter and discord, iirc yesterday there was a thread about automatic bans based on secret algos with no recourse). Government regulation is an attempt to make people aware this tracking exists: every time you see a wall, that means the site requires a level of tracking for which there exists no legal basis other than consent, thus it has to ask you if you're okay with that (like any ethical site should do anyhow). Automated decision making is also part of GDPR but unfortunately is very very weakly implemented. Basically, companies just have to tell you it exists (if and only if it has a significant impact on your life), and then your only recourse is to request a human in the loop, and they will just press the same button as the AI did and you have no idea if they even looked at your case because the decision making doesn't have to be transparent. And that's only for important life things, none of this even applies to being banned from google account unless you sue them and get the judge to agree this has a major impact on your life.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        I do. I pay for a both a phone (Apple) and Office Suite (Microsoft) that’s not created by an adTech company. How is any of the GDPR actually working out? Has it made a difference? Has it made the web better or worse? As far as depending on Google - don’t?
    - beebeepka 4y ago
      You know damn well the cookie banners are only required for websites that are tracking users. It's not about using cookies
      - scarface74 4y ago
        No, the banner disclosures are only required because a bunch of technologically inept politicians required it. Have they made browsing the internet better? Have they decreased tracking?
        trasz 4y ago
        No, because they are not being enforced strongly enough.
        scarface74 4y ago
        So either way whether it’s because of incompetence or neglect, a law passed made the internet browsing experience worse.
        trasz 4y ago
        No, a workaround to said law made the experience worse.
- trasz 4y ago
  Which law requires Google to revoke access to children on a whim?

scarface74 4y ago

So you’re complaining that Google is trying to follow the law and you’re making your kids lie about their age? You don’t see the problem with this?

Nextgrid 4y ago
Nowadays you have to lie about a lot of things if you want to use the internet efficiently (or sometimes at all).
- scarface74 4y ago
  So you mean a government regulation by politicians made the internet worse? You don’t say… See also, the millions of cookie banners that infest every web page because of the EU.
  - Aachen 4y ago
    Ads and spam is what's ruining everyone's experience. If we would pay for services rendered then there is no need for tracking. If we could effectively prosecute and/or block spammers then there would be no need for anti-spam algorithms (from email to services like twitter and discord, iirc yesterday there was a thread about automatic bans based on secret algos with no recourse). Government regulation is an attempt to make people aware this tracking exists: every time you see a wall, that means the site requires a level of tracking for which there exists no legal basis other than consent, thus it has to ask you if you're okay with that (like any ethical site should do anyhow). Automated decision making is also part of GDPR but unfortunately is very very weakly implemented. Basically, companies just have to tell you it exists (if and only if it has a significant impact on your life), and then your only recourse is to request a human in the loop, and they will just press the same button as the AI did and you have no idea if they even looked at your case because the decision making doesn't have to be transparent. And that's only for important life things, none of this even applies to being banned from google account unless you sue them and get the judge to agree this has a major impact on your life.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      I do. I pay for a both a phone (Apple) and Office Suite (Microsoft) that’s not created by an adTech company. How is any of the GDPR actually working out? Has it made a difference? Has it made the web better or worse? As far as depending on Google - don’t?
  - beebeepka 4y ago
    You know damn well the cookie banners are only required for websites that are tracking users. It's not about using cookies
    - scarface74 4y ago
      No, the banner disclosures are only required because a bunch of technologically inept politicians required it. Have they made browsing the internet better? Have they decreased tracking?
      - trasz 4y ago
        No, because they are not being enforced strongly enough.
        scarface74 4y ago
        So either way whether it’s because of incompetence or neglect, a law passed made the internet browsing experience worse.
        trasz 4y ago
        No, a workaround to said law made the experience worse.
trasz 4y ago
Which law requires Google to revoke access to children on a whim?