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Doesn't Apple forbid publishing web apps on the app store? How is it then possible that something like ionic framework and react native still work? Unless they

by Meai 4y ago

Doesn't Apple forbid publishing web apps on the app store? How is it then possible that something like ionic framework and react native still work? Unless they literally translate all html features to native components but I seriously doubt it. Edit: This is a "talk to sales" framework and ionic is 50€ per month as the absolute cheapest option. This is essentially an ad then.

vore 4y ago
I'm pretty sure Apple is OK with web apps: https://ionic.io/resources/case-studies/sworkit https://ionic.io/resources/case-studies/sworkit Also Ionic is definitely free and open source: https://ionicframework.com/framework https://ionicframework.com/framework
- peterburkimsher 4y ago
  Wasn't the original plan for the iPhone 2G (pre-app store, iPhone OS 1) to use web apps for everything? https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/03/remembering-apples-sweet-solution-for-iphone-apps-before-the-app-store/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/03/remembering-apples-sweet-solu...
  - masklinn 4y ago
    Yes. That turned out to be nowhere near possible, especially for things like games. Hence the appstore.
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      Was it just games? WebOS’s apps were as good as any other platforms apps and were PWAs unless I’m mistaken.
      - masklinn 4y ago
        > Was it just games? It wasn't only games, but having been there the cambrian explosion following the appstore's release was very much 95% games (much to Jobs' dismay). > WebOS’s apps were as good as any other platforms apps and were PWAs unless I’m mistaken. They were built out of "web technologies" (HTML and javascript) but they were not PWAs as they were significantly augmented with native components and concepts, none of which were part of the browser (even as proprietary extensions). That's like calling Firefox a PWA because it's built out of XML and Javascript (or was, not sure that's still the case). iOS' first draft (pre appstore) was pretty much just web pages you pinned to your springboard (which you can still do). There were a few allowances for removing browser chrome and the like, or providing a few icons, but for the most part it was exactly what you'd run in a browser.
systoll 4y ago
> Unless they literally translate all html features to native components but I seriously doubt it. React Native doesn’t use HTML. It has its own set of base tags (eg 'Text', 'Image', 'ScrollView') that are then translated to native components. (Though, to complicate matters further, 'React Native for Web' exists, and translates those into HTML tags https://necolas.github.io/react-native-web/docs/ https://necolas.github.io/react-native-web/docs/ )
- jbverschoor 4y ago
  Nice.. I didn't know about that!

by Meai 4y ago

vore 4y ago

I'm pretty sure Apple is OK with web apps: https://ionic.io/resources/case-studies/sworkit https://ionic.io/resources/case-studies/sworkit Also Ionic is definitely free and open source: https://ionicframework.com/framework https://ionicframework.com/framework

peterburkimsher 4y ago
Wasn't the original plan for the iPhone 2G (pre-app store, iPhone OS 1) to use web apps for everything? https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/03/remembering-apples-sweet-solution-for-iphone-apps-before-the-app-store/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/03/remembering-apples-sweet-solu...
- masklinn 4y ago
  Yes. That turned out to be nowhere near possible, especially for things like games. Hence the appstore.
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    Was it just games? WebOS’s apps were as good as any other platforms apps and were PWAs unless I’m mistaken.
    - masklinn 4y ago
      > Was it just games? It wasn't only games, but having been there the cambrian explosion following the appstore's release was very much 95% games (much to Jobs' dismay). > WebOS’s apps were as good as any other platforms apps and were PWAs unless I’m mistaken. They were built out of "web technologies" (HTML and javascript) but they were not PWAs as they were significantly augmented with native components and concepts, none of which were part of the browser (even as proprietary extensions). That's like calling Firefox a PWA because it's built out of XML and Javascript (or was, not sure that's still the case). iOS' first draft (pre appstore) was pretty much just web pages you pinned to your springboard (which you can still do). There were a few allowances for removing browser chrome and the like, or providing a few icons, but for the most part it was exactly what you'd run in a browser.

systoll 4y ago

> Unless they literally translate all html features to native components but I seriously doubt it. React Native doesn’t use HTML. It has its own set of base tags (eg 'Text', 'Image', 'ScrollView') that are then translated to native components. (Though, to complicate matters further, 'React Native for Web' exists, and translates those into HTML tags https://necolas.github.io/react-native-web/docs/ https://necolas.github.io/react-native-web/docs/ )

jbverschoor 4y ago
Nice.. I didn't know about that!