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Stability ???? Ubuntu is far more stable. Have never had issues wrt stability. I have had issues with support as in some software do not work on linux (Turbo T

Stability ???? Ubuntu is far more stable. Have never had issues wrt stability. I have had issues with support as in some software do not work on linux (Turbo Tax , Games etc) but never in stability. Have been using linux desktops since 2010

baby 4y ago
Just had a coworker who had to wipe out his laptop to upgrade ubuntu version. Literally never happened to me on mac
- aulin 4y ago
  I guess he wanted to upgrade to the newly released 22.04, am I right? upgrade is temporarily disabled due to some bug they're sorting out. Guess he didn't read the release notes and did a full reinstall out of frustration. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes/24668 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes...
  - baby 4y ago
    It was before that
- dotancohen 4y ago
  I haven't used Windows since 2005, so my opinion might be unwarranted, but I've been upgrading my home Linux distro since sometime before 2010 without a clean wipe. During that time I've heard of so many Windows "fix it by reinstalling" stories that I wonder if that is simply the default first step in Windows troubleshooting. After turning it off and back on, of course.
  - philliphaydon 4y ago
    To be fair. There’s a bunch of issues around upgrading to 22.04 because of snaps…
    - dotancohen 4y ago
      Terrific, thank you. That is to be the project this coming weekend, though I wasn't expecting problems.
- dosethree 4y ago
  in the old days I would format before upgrading osx. if you use a bunch of developer tools, they would often break with osx versions. remember macports? wiping every year or so isn’t a big deal when everything is in the cloud. haven’t needed to in years, though
FredPret 4y ago
You’re kidding right? Linux as a desktop OS is a dumpster fire in my experience. Many times I’ve had a system working for a couple of months, only to be laid low mysteriously by an update. This happened on everything from Ubuntu to Mint to Arch. The last straw for me (not stability related) was when I needed to scan something. Cue hours spent in the terminal… still no scanning. MacOS will keep working for years for most everyone and has all basic functionality in place or easily installable. The same is true for Linux as a server, which I use every day.
- zmxz 4y ago
  Why would the person be kidding? Why is it a dumpster fire in your experience? My work PC has the uptime of 3 months right now. I've been using this particular PC for 26 months, with Ubuntu installed. No crashes. No problems. No slowdowns. These testimonials where someone says "but it's <insert reasons that confirm it's bad>" are difficult to relate with. I also scan and print from time to time, I'm not advanced user of scanners/printers - but after plugging the devices in via USB, they did their job. I had the pleasure of trying to work with containers on Mac the other day. After 10 minutes I gave up. Mac is a great machine but it's not for me, it definitely has its audience and I can tell it's great because it helps many types of users cut a lot of corners. I'm sure I could get containers to work with M1, if there was any kind of benefit to use a machine which is, hardware-wise, slower than the beefy one I use with Linux.
  - subjectsigma 4y ago
    We must live in a different universe then. My Ubuntu desktop crashed three times in one day yesterday. I was trying to run a Windows-only application in WINE and for some reason all of GNOME crashes when I open a pulldown menu. I had to C-M-F1 and use systemctl to restart the window manager. Never did get it working. If testimonials about Linux being unstable are hard to relate to, you are absolutely in the minority of computer users or you have not used Linux very long. I still remember the days where I had to (lightly) edit C source code to get my WiFi drivers working...
    - 4y ago
icedchocolate 4y ago
I am literally never able to install my household name desktop apps that I use daily on Mac, when I try Ubuntu, without the thing crashing my whole computer. It’s insane.
bodge5000 4y ago
> Have been using linux desktops since 2010 Thats probably why its so stable for you, you know it well, and that increased control of it allows you to make it as stable as you need. However, generally speaking, Linux does not specialise in stability

baby 4y ago

Just had a coworker who had to wipe out his laptop to upgrade ubuntu version. Literally never happened to me on mac

aulin 4y ago
I guess he wanted to upgrade to the newly released 22.04, am I right? upgrade is temporarily disabled due to some bug they're sorting out. Guess he didn't read the release notes and did a full reinstall out of frustration. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes/24668 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes...
- baby 4y ago
  It was before that
dotancohen 4y ago
I haven't used Windows since 2005, so my opinion might be unwarranted, but I've been upgrading my home Linux distro since sometime before 2010 without a clean wipe. During that time I've heard of so many Windows "fix it by reinstalling" stories that I wonder if that is simply the default first step in Windows troubleshooting. After turning it off and back on, of course.
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  To be fair. There’s a bunch of issues around upgrading to 22.04 because of snaps…
  - dotancohen 4y ago
    Terrific, thank you. That is to be the project this coming weekend, though I wasn't expecting problems.
dosethree 4y ago
in the old days I would format before upgrading osx. if you use a bunch of developer tools, they would often break with osx versions. remember macports? wiping every year or so isn’t a big deal when everything is in the cloud. haven’t needed to in years, though

FredPret 4y ago

You’re kidding right? Linux as a desktop OS is a dumpster fire in my experience. Many times I’ve had a system working for a couple of months, only to be laid low mysteriously by an update. This happened on everything from Ubuntu to Mint to Arch. The last straw for me (not stability related) was when I needed to scan something. Cue hours spent in the terminal… still no scanning. MacOS will keep working for years for most everyone and has all basic functionality in place or easily installable. The same is true for Linux as a server, which I use every day.

zmxz 4y ago
Why would the person be kidding? Why is it a dumpster fire in your experience? My work PC has the uptime of 3 months right now. I've been using this particular PC for 26 months, with Ubuntu installed. No crashes. No problems. No slowdowns. These testimonials where someone says "but it's <insert reasons that confirm it's bad>" are difficult to relate with. I also scan and print from time to time, I'm not advanced user of scanners/printers - but after plugging the devices in via USB, they did their job. I had the pleasure of trying to work with containers on Mac the other day. After 10 minutes I gave up. Mac is a great machine but it's not for me, it definitely has its audience and I can tell it's great because it helps many types of users cut a lot of corners. I'm sure I could get containers to work with M1, if there was any kind of benefit to use a machine which is, hardware-wise, slower than the beefy one I use with Linux.
- subjectsigma 4y ago
  We must live in a different universe then. My Ubuntu desktop crashed three times in one day yesterday. I was trying to run a Windows-only application in WINE and for some reason all of GNOME crashes when I open a pulldown menu. I had to C-M-F1 and use systemctl to restart the window manager. Never did get it working. If testimonials about Linux being unstable are hard to relate to, you are absolutely in the minority of computer users or you have not used Linux very long. I still remember the days where I had to (lightly) edit C source code to get my WiFi drivers working...
  - 4y ago

icedchocolate 4y ago

I am literally never able to install my household name desktop apps that I use daily on Mac, when I try Ubuntu, without the thing crashing my whole computer. It’s insane.

bodge5000 4y ago

> Have been using linux desktops since 2010 Thats probably why its so stable for you, you know it well, and that increased control of it allows you to make it as stable as you need. However, generally speaking, Linux does not specialise in stability