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> As a male, I'll never understand how cosmetics are so entrenched in the lives of females. really? same reason people like nice clothes. looking "better" is

> As a male, I'll never understand how cosmetics are so entrenched in the lives of females. really? same reason people like nice clothes. looking "better" is a competitive advantage to help you get the "best" mate. makeup is a means to that end.

zmitri 15y ago
That's fair, but it's definitely not the most effective means. If a woman takes 5-10 minutes to apply make up each day, and if they decided to allocate that towards some other activity, the amount of time spent doing something more productive would add up very quickly. I personally find that it makes women less appealing as it's quite superficial, and a waste of time/money.
- jonknee 15y ago
  This is why engineers aren't running fashion and beauty companies. It's not about efficiency. It may not make sense to you, but it very much does to a staggering number of people.
  - michaelchisari 15y ago
    And to tie it all in, this is why Steve Jobs was such a visionary, because he understood both engineering and aesthetics, function and form. A lot of people understand one or the other, it's the rare person who can empathize with the necessity of both.
    - zmitri 15y ago
      "Do you want to sell sugar water for the rest of your life or come with me and change the world?" I wouldn't be surprised if cosmetics were lumped in with sugar water on that one.
- orangecat 15y ago
  Telling women not to wear makeup is like telling guys to "be yourself". Great advice if you're a naturally gorgeous woman, or an extroverted and socially adept man. For the rest of us, not so much.
  - zmitri 15y ago
    I appreciate the honest and rational response. I felt like I was being berated for asking a sincere (although perhaps misinterpretted) question.
    - rosstafarian 15y ago
      I think you're confusing make up with too much make-up for the most part(with some exceptions) if it's obvious a woman is wearing makeup she's got too much of it on IMO.

zmitri 15y ago

That's fair, but it's definitely not the most effective means. If a woman takes 5-10 minutes to apply make up each day, and if they decided to allocate that towards some other activity, the amount of time spent doing something more productive would add up very quickly. I personally find that it makes women less appealing as it's quite superficial, and a waste of time/money.

jonknee 15y ago
This is why engineers aren't running fashion and beauty companies. It's not about efficiency. It may not make sense to you, but it very much does to a staggering number of people.
- michaelchisari 15y ago
  And to tie it all in, this is why Steve Jobs was such a visionary, because he understood both engineering and aesthetics, function and form. A lot of people understand one or the other, it's the rare person who can empathize with the necessity of both.
  - zmitri 15y ago
    "Do you want to sell sugar water for the rest of your life or come with me and change the world?" I wouldn't be surprised if cosmetics were lumped in with sugar water on that one.
orangecat 15y ago
Telling women not to wear makeup is like telling guys to "be yourself". Great advice if you're a naturally gorgeous woman, or an extroverted and socially adept man. For the rest of us, not so much.
- zmitri 15y ago
  I appreciate the honest and rational response. I felt like I was being berated for asking a sincere (although perhaps misinterpretted) question.
  - rosstafarian 15y ago
    I think you're confusing make up with too much make-up for the most part(with some exceptions) if it's obvious a woman is wearing makeup she's got too much of it on IMO.