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I don't believe it's right or just, but I do believe it is what it is...Blame it on culture, biology, interest, or whatever. However, I doubt there is foul play

I don't believe it's right or just, but I do believe it is what it is...Blame it on culture, biology, interest, or whatever. However, I doubt there is foul play here. As far as I can tell, the demographics are skewed here, the same way the NBA is. I wish there were more Black programmers, like I wish there were more Asian NBA players.

rectang 4y ago
I blame it on people blaming it on culture, biology, interest — which says "you aren't here because you don't belong here". And then people nope the hell out out of tech and go into other industries.
- ryan93 4y ago
  Source for these industries with a bunch of black former programmers?
  - zebnyc 4y ago
    Pretty sure if you mandate these policies, it would violate the Equal Employment Opportunity act
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- zebnyc 4y ago
  Can you clarify what actions that you would like employers to take? AFAICT, employers are trying to out reach to marginalized communities and meet them where they are. How are companies supposed to hire without compromising quality? Are you suggesting a quota based system similar to the green card system?
  - rectang 4y ago
    To tie things back to the article... how about looking at what Coca Cola did right? I suspect one thing they did was avoid making the assumption that hiring candidates from marginalized communities compromises quality.
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    - ryan93 4y ago
      Does coca cola have the same standards for generic corporate employees as google or facebook require of their engineers?
      - rectang 4y ago
        First, "generic corporate employees" seems like a pretty disrespectful way to describe the Coca-Cola employees classified as "professionals". Second, it's not like non-FAANG tech companies, despite lower standards for engineering positions, have higher numbers in the Black, Hispanic, or female demographics. Third, if you look at the data for Coca Cola's "Exec/Sr Officials & Managers" where the "standards" without question are comparable to those at tech companies, the percentages aren't as high but they're still way better than you see in tech leadership: > 3.37% - Black or African American Male > 4.31% - Black or African American Female
        ryan93 4y ago
        Not comparable to engineering at faang. Coca Cola sells itself. Still Coca Cola is way racist. America is 13% black.
        runako 4y ago
        > Coca Cola sells itself This is an interesting way to contrast Coca-Cola with FAANG, of which the majority are routinely under antitrust scrutiny. Put another way: does Coca-Cola (market share: 43%) sell itself any more than Google (market share: 92%)?
        ryan93 4y ago
        what does that have to do with the intellectual ability requited to get a google engineering jobs vs a marketing gig at coca cola?
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rectang 4y ago

I blame it on people blaming it on culture, biology, interest — which says "you aren't here because you don't belong here". And then people nope the hell out out of tech and go into other industries.

ryan93 4y ago
Source for these industries with a bunch of black former programmers?
- zebnyc 4y ago
  Pretty sure if you mandate these policies, it would violate the Equal Employment Opportunity act
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zebnyc 4y ago
Can you clarify what actions that you would like employers to take? AFAICT, employers are trying to out reach to marginalized communities and meet them where they are. How are companies supposed to hire without compromising quality? Are you suggesting a quota based system similar to the green card system?
- rectang 4y ago
  To tie things back to the article... how about looking at what Coca Cola did right? I suspect one thing they did was avoid making the assumption that hiring candidates from marginalized communities compromises quality.
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  - ryan93 4y ago
    Does coca cola have the same standards for generic corporate employees as google or facebook require of their engineers?
    - rectang 4y ago
      First, "generic corporate employees" seems like a pretty disrespectful way to describe the Coca-Cola employees classified as "professionals". Second, it's not like non-FAANG tech companies, despite lower standards for engineering positions, have higher numbers in the Black, Hispanic, or female demographics. Third, if you look at the data for Coca Cola's "Exec/Sr Officials & Managers" where the "standards" without question are comparable to those at tech companies, the percentages aren't as high but they're still way better than you see in tech leadership: > 3.37% - Black or African American Male > 4.31% - Black or African American Female
      - ryan93 4y ago
        Not comparable to engineering at faang. Coca Cola sells itself. Still Coca Cola is way racist. America is 13% black.
        runako 4y ago
        > Coca Cola sells itself This is an interesting way to contrast Coca-Cola with FAANG, of which the majority are routinely under antitrust scrutiny. Put another way: does Coca-Cola (market share: 43%) sell itself any more than Google (market share: 92%)?
        ryan93 4y ago
        what does that have to do with the intellectual ability requited to get a google engineering jobs vs a marketing gig at coca cola?

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