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Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) released
- carussell 15y agoI flagged the other 11.10 submission[1] for the reasons in mgunes's comment, and it's dead now. The same should happen here. 1. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3106857 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3106857
- maggit 15y agoDisregard this. 11.10 is indeed officially released: http://release-blog.ubuntu.com/?p=173 http://release-blog.ubuntu.com/?p=173
- buster 15y agothanks for the flagging! </sarcasm>
- carussell 15y agoAlternatively, don't jump the gun with your submissions. And I'm loving the downvotes from future-land, where 11.10 has now been officially released, and we shit on people who posted outside of future-land, before the official release did come to pass.
- 47 15y agoCheckout the online tour http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ I am curious are there any software/libraries which can build a demo/tour like this for any Desktop application?
- bmelton 15y agoCamtasia might have produced something like that, but the last time I used it (years ago) it exported to Flash exclusively.
- mladenkovacevic 15y agoCamtasia will record a screencap video.. It can't do a full interactive demo like this. Also it will export the videos to more than Flash.
- bmelton 15y agoYou are 100% correct. Sorry, I'm on a very bandwidth-constrained connection while I'm on travel. It looked like a full-screen video to me. Thanks!
- dazbradbury 15y agoReally like that they've done that. A very slick html interface which I'm sure they spent a fair bit of time on. I doubt it was "automated" with any software. Every object is a html element, with "firefox" just opening an iframe for example. Very nice - even if it's not really a representation of the OS, it shows off the UI very well IMO.
- alperakgun 15y agoon my android tablet the fancy tour confused me, i felt like i m on my desktop.. Good job, thanks ubuntu for one more version of new goodness.
- sireat 15y agoThe online tour really makes me like Unity, but of course that is too brief an impression. Might have to give it a spin on a home machine. I used to upgrade religiously every 6 months, from 7.10 to 10.04LTS. Been waiting for next LTS to upgrade work machines.
- vimalg2 15y agoI've been sticking to 10.04 LTS for quite some time. I'm finally starting to appreciate the old adage 'If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it'. LTS works ultra-reliably.
- jpenney 15y agoAll my VMs run 10.04. Been thinking that when it gets too old due to the packages supported getting to far out of date, I'll just switch to Debian.
- bilban 15y agoI was gutted that my Hardy Heron died two weeks before the release of Lucid. I swapped over to Debian, but use the LTS elsewhere. I treat other Ubuntus as Betas. I gave Ocelot a whirl this eve, and it's much better than my experience with the 10.04 netbook edition. The window management is more consistent. It feels more cohesive. Anyway after some initial excitement, I broke it without much effort. I'd pretty much written off Ubuntu, but think the next LTS could be pretty good - if they iron out all the bugs, and listen to the community.
- jwingy 15y agoMaybe this isn't the best place to ask, but does anyone know if you can do the 'aero snap' with windows when running unity in 2d (non-accelerated) mode?
- thetwentyone 15y agoYes, you can. At least in 11.04, I haven't upgraded to 11.10 yet, but I would assume it would be the same/enhanced.
- Iv 15y agohow do you run unity in non-accelerated mode ? It has always refused to run for me unless I had graphical acceleration installed.
- decode 15y ago> sudo apt-get install unity-2d You may have to add this PPA first: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/unity_2d?dist=oneiric http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/unity_2d?dist=oneiric Then choose Unity 2D in the window manager options from the login manager.
- sciurus 15y agoThis isn't necessary in Oneiric. Unity 2D is included and is the default fallback if 3D isn't supported.
- sciurus 15y agoIn 11.10, it should automatically start in 2D mode if 3D acceleration isn't available. Alternately, you can choose it from the login screen. Here is how Unity and Unity 2D are configured on my system. $ cat /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session [GNOME Session] Name=Ubuntu Name[eo]=Ubuntuo RequiredComponents=gnome-settings-daemon; RequiredProviders=windowmanager;panel; DefaultProvider-windowmanager=compiz DefaultProvider-panel=compiz IsRunnableHelper=/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test FallbackSession=ubuntu-2d DesktopName=Unity $ cat /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu-2d.session [GNOME Session] Name=Ubuntu 2D RequiredComponents=gnome-settings-daemon; RequiredProviders=windowmanager;panel;launcher; DefaultProvider-windowmanager=metacity DefaultProvider-panel=unity-2d-panel DefaultProvider-launcher=unity-2d-launcher DesktopName=Unity
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- pavelkaroukin 15y agounity... ability to install and run 32-bit apps along side with 64-bit apps - is what huge! :)
- aqrashik 15y agoAny reason why Ubuntu just doesn't seem to make the switch to DVD based installation ISOs? I end up burning the CD images on DVD anyway and would definitely prefer to have a larger selection of available packages on the installation media, even if I didn't end up installing some.
- jcastro 15y agoThere are DVD ISOs made with exactly that, plus some extra goodies like Inkscape, GIMP, etc.
- Symmetry 15y agoThe limiting factor is really bandwidth. Fitting on a CD is just a nice clear line that can be used to prevent bloat.
- rat 15y agoCd are cheaper for people to buy(and cheaper to give away).
- Iv 15y agoI wonder if unity can work on my recent laptop. It has a recent nvidia and like most of these, it has the optimus "feature" which for now requires the hackish bumblebee. It has been years since I had to go in the xorg.conf file, that was the main reason I switched from debian to ubuntu. That is the only feature I wish of any Ubuntu release. Can someone tell me if it has now been implemented ? From the release notes, they don't seem to mention it.
- noamsml 15y agoCheck if Optimus can be disabled in the BIOS. It often can.
- rbanffy 15y agoIn general, I stay away (and recommend others do the same) from graphic subsystems that require extensive hacking to properly work under Linux. Buying computers with them rewards manufacturers who do half-assed work - they pocketed your money after all. It's not like notebooks equipped with Intel graphics are more expensive or hard to find. Or that it would be an insane amount of work to provide functional (even if not fully-functional) Linux drivers for their product lines.
- xxpor 15y agoI just bought a 570GTX explicitly because Nvidia has always been better on Linux. I'm not familiar with this "feature". What does it entail, and how does it affect linux?
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- morrow 15y agoQuestion about the "dash" (menu that appears after clicking the top-left ubuntu logo) - for those who've tried it out - does it let you customize it now? More specifically, does it let you change the main shortcuts like "Browse the web", "View Photos", "Check E-mail", "Listen to music" to other functions? Thanks in advance if anyone's able to help with this.
- bilban 15y agoI couldn't work this out either. Or work out how to edit the dock. How can I add Terminal say to the dock?
- morrow 15y agoYea it doesn't seem possible to edit the default dash page, even using ccsm - its a shame, I dont think I've ever or will ever use 3/4 of the huge shortcuts there (view photos, check e-mail, listen to music) since I really only use web services for all of those. I dont think the dock is editable (if you mean the bar along the top) - you can add applications via ubuntu software center (I added weather), but I don't know if you can add application shortcuts like in previous versions.
- bilban 15y agoWhen I say the dock I mean the big bar down the left hand side.
- morrow 15y agofor that you can right-click an app once launched and select "keep in launcher", or you can define custom ones by hand. I did that last install, haven't tried it yet for this one, but this was the guide I used: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1578379 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1578379 (not sure if it still works in this version of unity, but it's worth a shot).
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- Garbage 15y agoFor me, the most interesting features are: * 32-bit compatibility on amd64 systems Ubuntu 11.10 provides "multiarch" support for installing 32-bit library and application packages on 64-bit systems. For all amd64 installs and upgrades, select 32-bit software (like Skype and Flash), will now be installable directly using the same 32-bit packages that are used on i386 installations. You are not required to install the ia32-libs compatibility package. For users, this change means that the 32-bit libraries will always be available at the same time as their 64-bit counterparts, even in the case of security updates, and users will only need to install those 32-bit libraries required by the user's application(s). * Hybrid CD/USB images supported All ISO images released with Ubuntu 11.10 are hybrid CD/USB images that can be written directly to a USB disk and booted without the use of special software. Users who wish to enable persistent storage on a USB stick can still use the usb-creator tool to configure the USB stick.
- lhnn 15y agoUbuntu 11.10 has removed simple configurable items like font size and screensaver into a non-default tool, making them much less accessible to non-hackers. Combine this with all the usability changes in Unity (alt-tab affects all workspaces, etc.) and you have an environment I'm not too excited to work in.
- mrinterweb 15y agoI have really enjoyed Unity. I think there are a lot of very good UI choices that are better to the normal gnome desktop. I am bummed to hear that alt-tab affects all workspaces. That is one of the things that drove me crazy on OS X.
- mrinterweb 15y agoI just installed compizconfig-settings-manager, and in the Unity plugin, there is a setting where you can tell Compiz to prefer applications in your current viewport. I am no longer as concerned about the alt-tab change now.
- drivebyacct2 15y agoThis is a symptom of the upgrade to Gnome 3.20.
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- bilban 15y agoI found font size under Universal Access, or whatever it's called. Worked well too.
- bilban 15y agoThanks for pointing out the alt-tab switch change. That's really annoying - as I use workspaces to group apps, so I can switch between them more efficiently.
- clarkevans 15y agoIt doesn't appear that XMonad works as nicely, at least, I'm unable to get the panel to work. It seems gnome-panel is no longer used, furthermore, right-clicking on the new unity panel to configure it doesn't seem work. XMonad works... I'll just be panel free for a while.
- sciurus 15y agoI used the i3 window manager with gnome-settings-daemon and nautilus in Ubuntu 11.04. This stopped working in Ubuntu 11.10, which I blame on the upgrade from GNOME 2.x to 3.x.
- asianexpress 15y agoDid the release take down linux.org somehow? 509 Bandwidth Limit Exceeded right now
- nphrk 15y agoMy experience so far: * Looks nicer. * You can't modify the panels. I always had some shortcuts there, now I have to go through the menu. * You can't even change the default icon theme using the customization app. You have to get gnome-tweak-tool (IIRC). * ALT+F2 doesn't do anything by default. I guess the key bindings are changed/some are disabled by default. * It tried to install the new ATI drivers, then miserably failed. Trying to fix it, I purged the old drivers, but it still didn't work. This only caused it to freeze at boot time, so I had to the recovery console to fix it. * Bottom line: never ever upgrade from an old version. Always do a clean install (or pick up a different distro/OS). * Note: I'm using Gnome (now not so) classic.
- navs 15y agoI ran Ubuntu 11.04 on a netbook and performance was terrible. Switching to Unity 2D helped a bit but it was still struggling. Any indication 11.10 will work better? Of course I'm gonna give this a try regardless but I'd like to hear from netbook owners if they've noticed better performance.
- eru 15y agoHave you considered using a window manager that's not so fancy?
- w1ntermute 15y agoA tiling window manager is a great option for a netbook. I would recommend Xmonad.
- navs 15y agoYes, I've used alternative window managers. But the menu bar integration with unity is something I enjoy and would like to continue enjoying.
- Estragon 15y agoI'm getting great performance on a netbook with 11.04 and sawfish as the window manager. I log in in classic mode, so I get the gnome panels, and then switch over.
- hristov 15y agoI cannot believe they removed the option to run classic. I literally cancelled my update the moment I learned that (on slashdot). I hear there is a way to bring it back but I am worried about compatibility at this point. So I will have to wait a bit and see whether others can get classic to work for ubuntu 11.10 and look for alternative distros. This is really annoying because the main reason I run ubuntu is so I do not have to deal with testing and installing distros.
- eru 15y agoJust use xmonad. That runs fine.
- Symmetry 15y agoUnfortunately for me I'd been running Xmonad as my Gnome window manager. I can't figure out how to keep doing that at the moment, so I'm sticking with 11.4 for a while at least.
- zmanian 15y agoI followed the gnome3 instructions on the XMonad wiki and it went pretty smoothly. Remember to install gnome-panel from the repos.
- jaz 15y agoIf you're on a laptop, and the trackpad stops working after upgrading, try one of these solutions in the terminal: synclient TouchpadOff = 0 or sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf and in that file type "options psmouse proto=imps" (no quotes). The second solution worked on my Lenovo T510. Credit goes to Hopper122 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479286 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479286
- kleiba 15y agoPerhaps a more informative link: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new
- zootm 15y agoWell I certainly hope getting Daft Punk when searching for Radiohead isn't what it normally does...
- kenny_r 15y agoCheck out the new content on their Ubuntu countdown site: http://thisisthecountdown.com/ http://thisisthecountdown.com/ They released a soundtrack for this release of Ubuntu.