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Love the irony that the "American Conservative" Freedom phone is just a generic phone from a Chinese tech company...

by AureliusDreamer 4y ago

voidfunc 4y ago
There is so much money to be made selling stupid people things that align with their biases.
- LightG 4y ago
  Leverging Stupidity ... welcome to my Ted Talk. Hmmm, do you know what ... time to jump on that bandwagon!
  - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
    Doing what, don't be a tease.
    - tacocataco 4y ago
      You will have to pay for a ticket to go to the conference. /$
jimmygrapes 4y ago
- jimmygrapes 4y ago
  Couldn't edit on mobile, sorry. https://hothardware.com/news/us-government-subsidized-lifeline-android-phones-riddled-malware https://hothardware.com/news/us-government-subsidized-lifeli... Not the best writeup but not the worst. I experienced this myself.
  - lallysingh 4y ago
    > There is some debate as to whether these findings constitute the malware label, as opposed to PUPs (potentially unwanted programs). According to Sprint, its own testing has not uncovered any malware on the U686CL.
  - vlovich123 4y ago
    > The other part of the concern is that the only recourse is to uninstall the updater. However, that means users could miss out on critical security patches and other goodies. In other words, choose your poison. This reads like utter nonsense. If the software updater provided to you by the manufacturer is delivering malware to you, why on earth would you bother trusting “security updates” it provides to you. Unless there’s any actual evidence, given that the researchers admit the installed apps don’t actually contain malware, it all reads like a bunch of unnecessary scaremongering.
- manuelabeledo 4y ago
  Not trying to excuse it, but at least they were free.
  - tentacleuno 4y ago
    A lot of things are free these days; the Facebook business model has become moderately popular. Doesn't mean that you should use those products.
TaylorAlexander 4y ago
Reminds me of the cooler company Blue Coolers, whose entire business model is that they source from China to compete on price against USA made Yeti coolers. The company almost didn't make it, until they had their big break selling thousands of coolers at a trucker rally. The truckers loved the cheap coolers, even though they are only cheap because they are undercutting USA made coolers with Chinese ones. False consciousness in action! Source for this story via clips of a the reality show "I Quit" in this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqt2bPZT1w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqt2bPZT1w
- gkop 4y ago
  This is interesting and thanks for sharing. I don’t think it’s accurate to describe Yeti coolers as USA made though: https://www.allamericanmade.com/where-are-yeti-coolers-made/ https://www.allamericanmade.com/where-are-yeti-coolers-made/ For USA made, I found Cordova, which I recommend especially because they use a denser foam, so you get more storage capacity for the same exterior dimensions: https://shop.cordovaoutdoors.com/48-qt-adventurer/ https://shop.cordovaoutdoors.com/48-qt-adventurer/
  - TaylorAlexander 4y ago
    Oh thanks! Yeah all I know about this situation is what was in that youtube video, but this is good to know.
throwawaymanbot 4y ago
car_analogy 4y ago
Yeah, it's so funny to see that people who believe a domestic manufacturing base is important have been so utterly defeated that there's not a single US-made phone they can buy. Well, except the niche Librem 5, but the leaders of the "conservative" movement are mostly swindlers, so they picked a cheap phone they can mark up more. They lost what they valued, their leaders are selling them out, everybody laugh.

Love the irony that the "American Conservative" Freedom phone is just a generic phone from a Chinese tech company...

voidfunc 4y ago

There is so much money to be made selling stupid people things that align with their biases.

LightG 4y ago
Leverging Stupidity ... welcome to my Ted Talk. Hmmm, do you know what ... time to jump on that bandwagon!
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  Doing what, don't be a tease.
  - tacocataco 4y ago
    You will have to pay for a ticket to go to the conference. /$

jimmygrapes 4y ago

jimmygrapes 4y ago
Couldn't edit on mobile, sorry. https://hothardware.com/news/us-government-subsidized-lifeline-android-phones-riddled-malware https://hothardware.com/news/us-government-subsidized-lifeli... Not the best writeup but not the worst. I experienced this myself.
- lallysingh 4y ago
  > There is some debate as to whether these findings constitute the malware label, as opposed to PUPs (potentially unwanted programs). According to Sprint, its own testing has not uncovered any malware on the U686CL.
- vlovich123 4y ago
  > The other part of the concern is that the only recourse is to uninstall the updater. However, that means users could miss out on critical security patches and other goodies. In other words, choose your poison. This reads like utter nonsense. If the software updater provided to you by the manufacturer is delivering malware to you, why on earth would you bother trusting “security updates” it provides to you. Unless there’s any actual evidence, given that the researchers admit the installed apps don’t actually contain malware, it all reads like a bunch of unnecessary scaremongering.
manuelabeledo 4y ago
Not trying to excuse it, but at least they were free.
- tentacleuno 4y ago
  A lot of things are free these days; the Facebook business model has become moderately popular. Doesn't mean that you should use those products.

TaylorAlexander 4y ago

Reminds me of the cooler company Blue Coolers, whose entire business model is that they source from China to compete on price against USA made Yeti coolers. The company almost didn't make it, until they had their big break selling thousands of coolers at a trucker rally. The truckers loved the cheap coolers, even though they are only cheap because they are undercutting USA made coolers with Chinese ones. False consciousness in action! Source for this story via clips of a the reality show "I Quit" in this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqt2bPZT1w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqt2bPZT1w

gkop 4y ago
This is interesting and thanks for sharing. I don’t think it’s accurate to describe Yeti coolers as USA made though: https://www.allamericanmade.com/where-are-yeti-coolers-made/ https://www.allamericanmade.com/where-are-yeti-coolers-made/ For USA made, I found Cordova, which I recommend especially because they use a denser foam, so you get more storage capacity for the same exterior dimensions: https://shop.cordovaoutdoors.com/48-qt-adventurer/ https://shop.cordovaoutdoors.com/48-qt-adventurer/
- TaylorAlexander 4y ago
  Oh thanks! Yeah all I know about this situation is what was in that youtube video, but this is good to know.

throwawaymanbot 4y ago

car_analogy 4y ago

Yeah, it's so funny to see that people who believe a domestic manufacturing base is important have been so utterly defeated that there's not a single US-made phone they can buy. Well, except the niche Librem 5, but the leaders of the "conservative" movement are mostly swindlers, so they picked a cheap phone they can mark up more. They lost what they valued, their leaders are selling them out, everybody laugh.