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Just as more than one thing can be bad, you can be against imperialism, stand with oppressed peoples and deeply question the official American story.
by huragok 4y ago
Just as more than one thing can be bad, you can be against imperialism, stand with oppressed peoples and deeply question the official American story.
- ncallaway 4y agoAgreed that you don't have to accept the official American story. You can not be "anti-imperialist" and tolerate this war, however. This is a war of Russian imperialism. American imperialism is bad, I agree with that. But Russian imperialism is also bad. As was British imperialism. If you're an anti-imperialism, you must be against the Russian invasion.
- huragok 4y agoI agree?
- ncallaway 4y agoI wasn't really trying to disagree with you on this. I've seen a sentiment from some "anti-imperialist" voices that end up being primarily anti-western voices, that assume that _only_ the US and the West behave with imperialist policy. Anyway, I wasn't trying to disagree with you or anything. Just adding my own clarification around the context from some of the other discussions I've had on this topic. See, for example, macanchex's reply to my topic, which places all of the blame for this war on Western powers.
- cuteboy19 4y agoIn India, even very right wing people are ambivalent or only somewhat supportive of Putin, whereas the supposedly "anti imperialist" Communists seem to have fallen in love with him. They go to great lengths to localize and translate Russian propaganda.
- pmontra 4y agoThis might be a case of the enemy of my enemy (capitalist USA) are my friends. Actually they are only the enemy of their enemy and also capitalists, but the hopes of a lifetime can be self delusional.
- macanchex 4y agohttps://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/ https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukra... The dramatic developments we are witnessing today have causes that we knew about but refused to see: on the strategic level, the expansion of NATO (which we have not dealt with here); on the political level, the Western refusal to implement the Minsk Agreements; and operationally, the continuous and repeated attacks on the civilian population of the Donbass over the past years and the dramatic increase in late February 2022.
- KptMarchewa 4y ago> on the political level, the Western refusal to implement the Minsk Agreements; and operationally, the continuous and repeated attacks on the civilian population of the Donbass over the past years and the dramatic increase in late February 2022. To think that Ukraine was shelling Donbass and "provoking" after what we seen in the last 50 days is truly a mental distortion.
- mcguire 4y agoThis is, of course, the Russian take on the war. The Ukrainian version is significantly different. (And given the whole genocide thing, I know which I lean towards. I mean really, NATO, the West, and the Ukrainian government is responsible for Russian war crimes? https://www.reuters.com/resizer/i8u1Zr3pjvon_ZDTHHfs5b6IwlE=/960x0/filters:quality(80)/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/LSULYN3DV5JMHPGUUYJOEHOCHU.jpg https://www.reuters.com/resizer/i8u1Zr3pjvon_ZDTHHfs5b6IwlE=...)
- macanchex 4y agoJacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. On Bucha: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/if-the-pentagon-can-not-confirm-the-bucha-tales-who-can.html https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/if-the-pentagon-can-no...