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This isn't very well thought out, where do you live?

lm28469 4y ago
We spread too much thanks to unsustainable technologies/ideologies and now that we're facing the consequences our excuse is "how will we continue living unsustainably" Same answer as people who built cities in the middle of fucking deserts and complain about potential lack of water: you don't
- cassandratt 4y ago
  This is even worse thought out, and really demonstrates a real lack of understanding of how the world works. Oh how humans work. You're one of us, and equally complicit as any human live today. So, maybe, rather than being this unearned smugness, you come up with an answer. Any idiot can identify the challenges, and shit on something. Las Vegas exists, as do many other desert cities. So, this point makes no sense. Humans, harness the physics of the world around us, to shape our futures. The problem isn't cars, it's capitalism.
cowmoo728 4y ago
From many people's viewpoints, it is not very well thought out to subsidize the use of 3-ton single occupancy vehicles that require massive amounts of energy to manufacture and massive amounts of energy to move. At the very least there should be far higher licensing taxes, congestion charges, road wear taxes, enormous gas taxes, etc.
- generalenvelope 4y ago
  I think people don't realize just how bad car dependence is for their own communities. notjustbikes has many good videos on the topic, such as: Suburbia is Subsidized: Here's the Math: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nw6qyyrTeI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nw6qyyrTeI Why American Cities Are Broke - The Growth Ponzi Scheme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0 The Ugly, Dangerous, and Inefficient Stroads found all over the US & Canada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM
  - cassandratt 4y ago
    We understand. What are we supposed to do, sell our houses and move to a condo downtown? Whose going to buy them, and where the fuck are we going to get the resources to house that many people without a massive energy/resource exploitation. So "no cars" is childish and naive. Awareness isn't the issue, but awareness of an issue we have no control over does nothing of value to anyone other than add anxiety.

We spread too much thanks to unsustainable technologies/ideologies and now that we're facing the consequences our excuse is "how will we continue living unsustainably" Same answer as people who built cities in the middle of fucking deserts and complain about potential lack of water: you don't

cassandratt 4y ago
This is even worse thought out, and really demonstrates a real lack of understanding of how the world works. Oh how humans work. You're one of us, and equally complicit as any human live today. So, maybe, rather than being this unearned smugness, you come up with an answer. Any idiot can identify the challenges, and shit on something. Las Vegas exists, as do many other desert cities. So, this point makes no sense. Humans, harness the physics of the world around us, to shape our futures. The problem isn't cars, it's capitalism.

cowmoo728 4y ago

From many people's viewpoints, it is not very well thought out to subsidize the use of 3-ton single occupancy vehicles that require massive amounts of energy to manufacture and massive amounts of energy to move. At the very least there should be far higher licensing taxes, congestion charges, road wear taxes, enormous gas taxes, etc.

generalenvelope 4y ago
I think people don't realize just how bad car dependence is for their own communities. notjustbikes has many good videos on the topic, such as: Suburbia is Subsidized: Here's the Math: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nw6qyyrTeI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nw6qyyrTeI Why American Cities Are Broke - The Growth Ponzi Scheme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0 The Ugly, Dangerous, and Inefficient Stroads found all over the US & Canada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM
- cassandratt 4y ago
  We understand. What are we supposed to do, sell our houses and move to a condo downtown? Whose going to buy them, and where the fuck are we going to get the resources to house that many people without a massive energy/resource exploitation. So "no cars" is childish and naive. Awareness isn't the issue, but awareness of an issue we have no control over does nothing of value to anyone other than add anxiety.