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Where have you been? The man lives to troll.

nkozyra 4y ago
I'd argue he lives to be seen as a troll. As an actual troll he hasn't really done much but post tired memes until buying a large stake in Twitter. Time will tell whether he's actually going to do anything interesting with this stake but based on track record I'm going with no. Most of what qualifies him as a troll could be gleaned from a ten minute crash course in /b.
- vba616 4y ago
  Well, is 'qualifying as a troll' really about appealing to the connoisseurs, the academy of trolling experts? Or is it about making the most people the angriest? It's like arguing about whether McDonald's is good food. Some people think that suggesting an Edit button is telling. "Here is the only imaginable use of an edit button. You post a tweet saying “I love puppies” with a picture of a cute puppy. A thousand people retweet your tweet; a thousand more quote-tweet it with comments like “what a good boi!” A week later, you edit the tweet to say “I think the Nazis got a bad rap,” with a picture of Hitler. Years later, a professor is denied tenure because someone digs through her old tweets to find that she called Hitler “a good boi.” This is absolutely the only purpose for the edit button, and oh man does accomplished Twitter troll Elon Musk know that. " (Matthew Levine last week)
  - hajhatten 4y ago
    There are fixes to this though. Limit the time the tweet is editable, and postpone publishing tweets until that timer has run out. Or show a history of what the post has looked like.
    - KptMarchewa 4y ago
      Or just make edit button append text at below tweet, immediately visible in contrast to next tweet in chain.
      - hajhatten 4y ago
        Why not both? If you want to edit posts after the initial deadline, that could be the next step.
        KptMarchewa 4y ago
        Yeah, normal editing for X minutes, then append only seems to be good solution.
    - Hallucinaut 4y ago
      The former would completely negate the point of editing vs. deleting which one can already do. The latter... perhaps, I guess? But then why bother? Are people so desperate to keep their internet points proxies by retweets and likes that they can't fathom reposting if there was an egregious error? To me the whole exercise is one of malicious populism. It's an idea that appears liberty-generating on the surface and is used to gather a mob but has no real utility.
      - hajhatten 4y ago
        Enough people want the feature, whether you see the point or not.
saagarjha 4y ago
You missed the sarcasm.
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stickfigure 4y ago
I read parent as sarcasm.
TMWNN 4y ago
One of the symptoms of autism is the inability to recognize sarcasm (<http://www.healthcentral.com/autism/c/1443/162610/autism-sarcasm/ http://www.healthcentral.com/autism/c/1443/162610/autism-sar...>) without the help of idiotic, illiterate signals like "/s".

I'd argue he lives to be seen as a troll. As an actual troll he hasn't really done much but post tired memes until buying a large stake in Twitter. Time will tell whether he's actually going to do anything interesting with this stake but based on track record I'm going with no. Most of what qualifies him as a troll could be gleaned from a ten minute crash course in /b.

vba616 4y ago
Well, is 'qualifying as a troll' really about appealing to the connoisseurs, the academy of trolling experts? Or is it about making the most people the angriest? It's like arguing about whether McDonald's is good food. Some people think that suggesting an Edit button is telling. "Here is the only imaginable use of an edit button. You post a tweet saying “I love puppies” with a picture of a cute puppy. A thousand people retweet your tweet; a thousand more quote-tweet it with comments like “what a good boi!” A week later, you edit the tweet to say “I think the Nazis got a bad rap,” with a picture of Hitler. Years later, a professor is denied tenure because someone digs through her old tweets to find that she called Hitler “a good boi.” This is absolutely the only purpose for the edit button, and oh man does accomplished Twitter troll Elon Musk know that. " (Matthew Levine last week)
- hajhatten 4y ago
  There are fixes to this though. Limit the time the tweet is editable, and postpone publishing tweets until that timer has run out. Or show a history of what the post has looked like.
  - KptMarchewa 4y ago
    Or just make edit button append text at below tweet, immediately visible in contrast to next tweet in chain.
    - hajhatten 4y ago
      Why not both? If you want to edit posts after the initial deadline, that could be the next step.
      - KptMarchewa 4y ago
        Yeah, normal editing for X minutes, then append only seems to be good solution.
  - Hallucinaut 4y ago
    The former would completely negate the point of editing vs. deleting which one can already do. The latter... perhaps, I guess? But then why bother? Are people so desperate to keep their internet points proxies by retweets and likes that they can't fathom reposting if there was an egregious error? To me the whole exercise is one of malicious populism. It's an idea that appears liberty-generating on the surface and is used to gather a mob but has no real utility.
    - hajhatten 4y ago
      Enough people want the feature, whether you see the point or not.

saagarjha 4y ago

You missed the sarcasm.

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stickfigure 4y ago

I read parent as sarcasm.

TMWNN 4y ago

One of the symptoms of autism is the inability to recognize sarcasm (<http://www.healthcentral.com/autism/c/1443/162610/autism-sarcasm/ http://www.healthcentral.com/autism/c/1443/162610/autism-sar...>) without the help of idiotic, illiterate signals like "/s".