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It's sad how much has been stolen and kept in western museums. Just look at what's in the British Museum in London...

by andydd 4y ago

xyzzy4 4y ago
Well isn’t it better to safeguard things in the British Museum than let them get lost forever?
- fit2rule 4y ago
- satao 4y ago
  No, it's not. Classic example of imperialistic people... Leave them there, take care of them there. Stop thinking everything from poor nations is up for grabs.
  - gunfighthacksaw 4y ago
    > take care of them there Which clearly isn’t happening, so IMO it makes sense to store them in a stable society with enforced property rights. Doesn’t have to be UK or France.
    - benbreen 4y ago
      Persepolis wasn’t in great condition when I went but it also wasn’t a shambles. There’s a gift shop, guards, and a reconstruction of part of the palace, and a lot of tourists. Also a small set of offices for archaeologists. I’m a professional historian so I was a little bummed by the lack of adequate public-facing educational markers and texts, but it certainly can’t be compared to something like the Buddhas of Bamiyan as an excuse for removing items to European museums.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - xyzzy4 4y ago
- bin_bash 4y ago
  Yep. Better stolen than destroyed if you ask me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan
  - bobdupneu 4y ago
    It was in stable condition until it was set on fire by a westerner and until part of the remains were stolen by other westerners. Plus the country would be a democracy today without western 1953 coup.
    - eternalban 4y ago
      Xerxes shouldn't have burned Athens. His father, Darius, in fact had advised him to follow the protocol set by himself and Cyrus. Dr. Mossadeqh was not running a "democracy". Post WWII Iran's political space was far more complex than the caricature presented since the fall of the Shah, and sans British instigated support for counter-coup to remove Mossadegh with help from USA, a quite significant chunk of Iranian military and society, including the Clergy (who were already using terror in Iran, btw), agreed with the American analysis that Mossadegh would merely precede a Soviet controlled Tudeh takeover of Iran.

It's sad how much has been stolen and kept in western museums. Just look at what's in the British Museum in London...

by andydd 4y ago

It's sad how much has been stolen and kept in western museums. Just look at what's in the British Museum in London...

xyzzy4 4y ago

Well isn’t it better to safeguard things in the British Museum than let them get lost forever?

fit2rule 4y ago
satao 4y ago
No, it's not. Classic example of imperialistic people... Leave them there, take care of them there. Stop thinking everything from poor nations is up for grabs.
- gunfighthacksaw 4y ago
  > take care of them there Which clearly isn’t happening, so IMO it makes sense to store them in a stable society with enforced property rights. Doesn’t have to be UK or France.
  - benbreen 4y ago
    Persepolis wasn’t in great condition when I went but it also wasn’t a shambles. There’s a gift shop, guards, and a reconstruction of part of the palace, and a lot of tourists. Also a small set of offices for archaeologists. I’m a professional historian so I was a little bummed by the lack of adequate public-facing educational markers and texts, but it certainly can’t be compared to something like the Buddhas of Bamiyan as an excuse for removing items to European museums.
- deleted 4y ago
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- xyzzy4 4y ago
bin_bash 4y ago
Yep. Better stolen than destroyed if you ask me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan
- bobdupneu 4y ago
  It was in stable condition until it was set on fire by a westerner and until part of the remains were stolen by other westerners. Plus the country would be a democracy today without western 1953 coup.
  - eternalban 4y ago
    Xerxes shouldn't have burned Athens. His father, Darius, in fact had advised him to follow the protocol set by himself and Cyrus. Dr. Mossadeqh was not running a "democracy". Post WWII Iran's political space was far more complex than the caricature presented since the fall of the Shah, and sans British instigated support for counter-coup to remove Mossadegh with help from USA, a quite significant chunk of Iranian military and society, including the Clergy (who were already using terror in Iran, btw), agreed with the American analysis that Mossadegh would merely precede a Soviet controlled Tudeh takeover of Iran.