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As a related Adelaide fact - the center of town is ringed by a "moat" of parklands, each ostensibly the width of a cannonball and designed as a defensive struct

by iciac 4y ago

As a related Adelaide fact - the center of town is ringed by a "moat" of parklands, each ostensibly the width of a cannonball and designed as a defensive structure (an invading force would need to run through a cannon's worth of artillary). On a map the green square is extremely distinctive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_Park_Lands#/media/File:Streetmap_of_Adelaide_and_North_Adelaide.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_Park_Lands#/media/Fil...

22c 4y ago
Not the width of cannonball, but perhaps made wide enough such that you could not fire a cannonball from a cannon at the city without having to move across open land. I'm not sure if that's an urban legend though. I can't find any references to that line of reasoning in historic recounts of Colonel Light's initial plans for Adelaide.
- lostlogin 4y ago
  I was trying to imagine a park that narrow that ringed a city, I get it now.
  - stavros 4y ago
    Same here, cannonballs are small.
- progre 4y ago
  The park was designed by Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
plantain 4y ago
It's just not true. A myth that doesn't make any sense if you consider it. If you think artillery/cannon's couldn't shoot a mile, I'll sell you the Torrens Footbridge. https://www.adelaide-parklands.asn.au/fiction-facts https://www.adelaide-parklands.asn.au/fiction-facts
- woozyolliew 4y ago
  That website made me feel sad; seems they’re embattled, and really have a fight on their hands to stop the parkland turning into suburban parking and retail
  - nl 4y ago
    The Adelaide parklands association is one bunch of NIMBYs who you don't want to tangle with. Every single maintenance shed is the collapse of the parklands. It's not worth the fight.
    - CraigJPerry 4y ago
      They have got something worth protecting though. It’s A really liveable city and the parks are a part of that. Adelaide city centre is plenty big enough for retail, business and entertainment already and it’s still a walkable size rather than too sprawling. The parkland nearby the city centre gives a really nice vibe to the city and it suits it. As you’re flying into Adelaide in there’s a strong sense of flying into somewhere rural - it’s more than the article’s point about the lights scattered through residential areas. The geography is quite flat, the buildings very low but mostly it’s the vast openness beyond Adelaide.
      - NeoVeles 4y ago
        Seeing as the businesses in the south end have practically died over the last few years - they can redevelop there rather than the park lands. ;) The park lands and the botanical gardens are an absolute treasure that should be preserved. Dont turn the place into another Melbourne or Sydney.
        steve_taylor 4y ago
        The southern and western parts of the CBD are really under-developed. Single storey buildings are the norm.
      - 4y ago

by iciac 4y ago

22c 4y ago

Not the width of cannonball, but perhaps made wide enough such that you could not fire a cannonball from a cannon at the city without having to move across open land. I'm not sure if that's an urban legend though. I can't find any references to that line of reasoning in historic recounts of Colonel Light's initial plans for Adelaide.

lostlogin 4y ago
I was trying to imagine a park that narrow that ringed a city, I get it now.
- stavros 4y ago
  Same here, cannonballs are small.
progre 4y ago
The park was designed by Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

plantain 4y ago

It's just not true. A myth that doesn't make any sense if you consider it. If you think artillery/cannon's couldn't shoot a mile, I'll sell you the Torrens Footbridge. https://www.adelaide-parklands.asn.au/fiction-facts https://www.adelaide-parklands.asn.au/fiction-facts

woozyolliew 4y ago
That website made me feel sad; seems they’re embattled, and really have a fight on their hands to stop the parkland turning into suburban parking and retail
- nl 4y ago
  The Adelaide parklands association is one bunch of NIMBYs who you don't want to tangle with. Every single maintenance shed is the collapse of the parklands. It's not worth the fight.
  - CraigJPerry 4y ago
    They have got something worth protecting though. It’s A really liveable city and the parks are a part of that. Adelaide city centre is plenty big enough for retail, business and entertainment already and it’s still a walkable size rather than too sprawling. The parkland nearby the city centre gives a really nice vibe to the city and it suits it. As you’re flying into Adelaide in there’s a strong sense of flying into somewhere rural - it’s more than the article’s point about the lights scattered through residential areas. The geography is quite flat, the buildings very low but mostly it’s the vast openness beyond Adelaide.
    - NeoVeles 4y ago
      Seeing as the businesses in the south end have practically died over the last few years - they can redevelop there rather than the park lands. ;) The park lands and the botanical gardens are an absolute treasure that should be preserved. Dont turn the place into another Melbourne or Sydney.
      - steve_taylor 4y ago
        The southern and western parts of the CBD are really under-developed. Single storey buildings are the norm.
    - 4y ago