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42 points by joergrech 4y ago

Existenceblinks 4y ago
That's little solution introduced to real problem .. looking at job description these days makes me shifting to a product guy using tech I think is appropriated, not just based on "large pool of developers", and fall into inferior and inappropriate tech for solving problems.
dorianmariefr 4y ago
I searched Ruby on Rails in San Francisco and got lots of irrelevant results
sebastianconcpt 4y ago
In one hand, in a globalized market this is backwards. In the other hand, for less popular technologies this could be very interesting.
leetrout 4y ago
This needs work. Type in "go" in the tech search. Comes back with all kinds of silly suggestions like "hbo go". "Golang" didnt come up either.
- memen 4y ago
  Same for C++, I find the C&A (clothing retailer in the Netherlands) recommended
- vharuck 4y ago
  Same with R
  - aydnina 4y ago
    I tried R too. It seems to be searching for R in company names - R Systems, R/GA, H & R Block come up as examples.
- rjgonza 4y ago
  Yup, just tried for rust -- got lots of industrial companies
franze 4y ago
in austria we have https://devjobs.at/ https://devjobs.at/ the job postings are augmented with the dev-stacks (from servers, databases, languages, infra, thirdparties), the job headlines de-b#ll-ified using ML, and the users can apply fast via github / linked or direct via the jobposting on the companies website, every job posting has some salery range. it carved out it's niche in the austrian dev community.
anothernewdude 4y ago
Remote isn't just a town in Oregon.
lnxg33k1 4y ago
I feel like lately something weird is happening to the industry. I interviewed some people lately during the past few months to fill a couple of react jobs, and it looks like people is really giving a lot of fucks to the tech stack and technology they use, like I feel like there are now a lot of people who are knowledgeable of everything but master of nothing and also they keep learning framework and library without caring about software principle, architectural or design patterns or security best practice, We interviewed a tech lead that we hired for react lead and she didn’t know even what owasp 10 are, and my coworkers said yeah that is not something they’re supposed to know which chills by skin , so maybe this post is not fully related to the thing, but maybe is it not cool anymore to work solving challenging and meaningful problems or as long as you work on the last framework you’re good? Is it a developer issue or the industry is being fucked up by hiring managers or recruiters ignoring portable developers Knowledge and just caring for how many years you’ve used $nextCoolFramework?
- lvl102 4y ago
  Might have to do with the fact that front end space is inundated with “frameworks” and superfluous versioning. At the same time why bother sticking with a framework that’s going to be outdated in two years because the development team moved on to something else entirely?
- smoe 4y ago
  From my experience hiring and mentoring, I reckon a lot has to do with how (overly) complex stacks for web application development have gotten. Thus people often having to learn in a very top down way, learning the very high level tools first and have little understanding of what lies beneath. There is also at least the perception that there are a ton of those high level things you need to understand for being a "fullstack" dev and it is also this top layer that actually moves fast, whereas the fundamentals move in a much more glacial manner. People chasing changes and additions instead of deepening their knowledge. If I compare that to my own experience learning web dev in the early 2000s on my own. Make a html file with some css and ftp it up to a server. First version done. Add some JS, some PHP, then a database. Eventually move from vanilla code to different frameworks and languages, move from a Linux box to some cloud services, slowly start working with more complex systems and different paradigms. The whole process was very iterative and I feel I have gotten a lot of transferable knowledge on the way. Of course this is perfectly possible to do these days as well, but it is not what I see happening or being widely encouraged in communities or fostered within companies. It seems more about run this and that generator script, click this button to spin up the managed services to run it on. See, it is so easy, so no problem. Creating hundreds of dependencies and layers of abstraction with practically no idea what they do. I had people wanting to learn programming from zero asking me to help with issues with their docker setup before having written a nested for loop. I'm definitely not against those "modern" tools, they can be an awesome productivity boost if used well in the right context, but I can't help but often feel reminded of the good old Jurassic Park quote when it comes to tech stack decision making: "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"
candiddevmike 4y ago
Just because a company is using technologies you love doesn't mean you'll be using technologies you love if you work there. We use Go! (On one service (that's really a proof of concept (our main stack is ASP.NET)))
- epolanski 4y ago
  This. My younger and naive self used to over value the tech stack of a company, nowadays I don't care, there's way more important issues than the specific tech stack chosen like people, organization and processes. A strong engineering team pushes for meaningful and well organized requirements collection and encoding, documentation of the business domain, values (meaningful) testing and is strongly oriented towards providing the best developer experience possible. Languages and libraries do play a part in developer experience and satisfaction, but they are generally way less important.
  - Existenceblinks 4y ago
    But often times they use inappropriate tools for solving problems.
- milansm 4y ago
  If I'm a Go developer, or changing jobs because I want to use Go, of course that it is in both mine and my future employer's best interest to set expectations if I'm gonna work on Go or on ASP.NET.
  - candiddevmike 4y ago
    "sure milansm, you'll work on Go code. we just need to support this ASP.NET codebase for a little bit and then you can lead our migration to Go. I promise.". In this market, employers are saying anything to get folks in the door. They're scrambling for workers, and a lot of times it's because their codebase is shit and folks are leaving in droves, so they dangle carrots to get folks to support their decaying crap.
eatonphil 4y ago
I run a Discord community [0] around software internals for folks interested in hacking on databases, compilers, browsers, emulators, etc. There's a jobs channel there where folks post jobs on these topics there. If you've got these kinds of software internals jobs you're welcome to join and share. If you're looking for these kinds of jobs you're welcome to join and browse. Unlike OP's site this isn't tied to particular technology/languages/frameworms but tied to particular interesting topics. [0] discord.multiprocess.io
jack335 4y ago
Cool! Would be nice if you could support Remote jobs as location as well :)
flynniec6 4y ago
Spain, Munster, Ireland This seems a little wrong as a region.
jasfi 4y ago
I work a lot with Nim, for my own projects. There aren't many jobs out there for Nim just yet. I'm going to release some of tech I've built as Open Source (https://nexusdev.tools/ https://nexusdev.tools/). With any luck that will help to build up the Nim community, which in turn could help jump-start the Nim job market. DocUI, the back-end SDK that uses Flutter for the front-end, is actually multi-language on the back-end. But I also have a back-end web-framework built on top of Jester that handles user management. Another example is an ORM that generates Nim data access files (which is Postgres only at the moment, but other DBs could be added).
kvgr 4y ago
Nice tool, the search could some tuning. When i Type Android -> pure android is on the bottom. When i Type London, London England is at the bottom.
dwighttk 4y ago
Type Raleigh or Durham or North Carolina into the region selector and it gives bad or no results, but navigate over NC on the map and there are jobs listed
- rjmill 4y ago
  Yeah, I'm not going to assume Raleigh, NC is more important than all the other Raleighs in the world. But it is bizarre that I can get Fort Raleigh City, NC and not the actual capital of the state. Pretty neat tool, but the region search needs work.
  - dwighttk 4y ago
    Not necessarily that it is more important, but it isn’t there at all.
bitwize 4y ago
So I searched for Lisp jobs near Boston. Nothing. I changed the search to "Common Lisp" and got a few hits. But they were all just places with "Common" in the name, like Revere Hotel Boston Common. I know there are companies in the area that use Common Lisp, Google/ITA being the primary but not only one. Lisp jobs are rare, but not that rare. Sorry, but this looks like it's a "maybe someday, but not today" project.
taylodl 4y ago
I feel like this is completely backwards. To me this feels like 'I love using this kind of hammer so let me find all the jobs where I can use this hammer I love to use.' I'm actually not interested (at least not primarily interested) in that. I'm more interested in what are you building? What problems are you solving? I'd rather search by that and then see what their tech stack looks like and filter down to the ones matching my interests and the tools I like using. Heck, there may be a company that I'm really interested in what they're doing but I may not have a lot of experience with their particular technology set. I could reach out to them and express my interest in what they're doing and see if it might make sense for me to join them. Focusing on technology feels like putting the cart before the horse.
- lkxijlewlf 4y ago
  > I feel like this is completely backwards. To me this feels like 'I love using this kind of hammer so let me find all the jobs where I can use this hammer I love to use.' I'm actually not interested (at least not primarily interested) in that. I'm more interested in what are you building? What problems are you solving? Same for me. I can learn whatever tech stack you're using (if need be). I want to know about your business, your product, your future.
  - Existenceblinks 4y ago
    But tech stack requirements sit right there in job descriptions. It's about matching.
    - taylodl 4y ago
      Yes they do, but the question is should they? What role should they be playing?
      - Existenceblinks 4y ago
        They shouldn't, though they have few choices. They don't want to admit they chose the wrong tools for the problems, and can we disagree with them .. generally.
codingdave 4y ago
I am not sure where this data is coming from. I live out in the country, 15 minutes from a town of 2000 people, an hour from any real tech jobs. And there are results near me. From places like CyberCoders - almost as if other remote software folks just had a job through them once so their home address shows in the database. I suspect there is some serious validation needed of this data set before it will be useful.
chris_overseas 4y ago
I like the idea but it seems rather US-centric currently. I'm finding it almost impossible to filter by London, UK - a whole load of other locations containing 'London' across the US show up instead. Similarly, trying to reposition the map to London requires a lot of scrolling of the map, because I can't zoom out far enough to see enough of the globe. As it stands it's very difficult for me to use unfortunately, but hopefully it won't be too hard to improve the UX for an international audience.
- TheMerovingian 4y ago
  Likewise, looking for C jobs in Waterloo, Canada shunts me over to Austin, TX for some reason.
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sbmthakur 4y ago
Not sure how but I managed to land on a URL with an 'undefined' param. https://techmap.io/*/undefined https://techmap.io/*/undefined
dang 4y ago
Related Techmap: Find companies using technologies you love - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28897492 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28897492 - Oct 2021 (47 comments)

42 points by joergrech 4y ago

That's little solution introduced to real problem .. looking at job description these days makes me shifting to a product guy using tech I think is appropriated, not just based on "large pool of developers", and fall into inferior and inappropriate tech for solving problems.

dorianmariefr 4y ago

I searched Ruby on Rails in San Francisco and got lots of irrelevant results

sebastianconcpt 4y ago

In one hand, in a globalized market this is backwards. In the other hand, for less popular technologies this could be very interesting.

leetrout 4y ago

This needs work. Type in "go" in the tech search. Comes back with all kinds of silly suggestions like "hbo go". "Golang" didnt come up either.

memen 4y ago
Same for C++, I find the C&A (clothing retailer in the Netherlands) recommended
vharuck 4y ago
Same with R
- aydnina 4y ago
  I tried R too. It seems to be searching for R in company names - R Systems, R/GA, H & R Block come up as examples.
rjgonza 4y ago
Yup, just tried for rust -- got lots of industrial companies

franze 4y ago

in austria we have https://devjobs.at/ https://devjobs.at/ the job postings are augmented with the dev-stacks (from servers, databases, languages, infra, thirdparties), the job headlines de-b#ll-ified using ML, and the users can apply fast via github / linked or direct via the jobposting on the companies website, every job posting has some salery range. it carved out it's niche in the austrian dev community.

anothernewdude 4y ago

Remote isn't just a town in Oregon.

lnxg33k1 4y ago

I feel like lately something weird is happening to the industry. I interviewed some people lately during the past few months to fill a couple of react jobs, and it looks like people is really giving a lot of fucks to the tech stack and technology they use, like I feel like there are now a lot of people who are knowledgeable of everything but master of nothing and also they keep learning framework and library without caring about software principle, architectural or design patterns or security best practice, We interviewed a tech lead that we hired for react lead and she didn’t know even what owasp 10 are, and my coworkers said yeah that is not something they’re supposed to know which chills by skin , so maybe this post is not fully related to the thing, but maybe is it not cool anymore to work solving challenging and meaningful problems or as long as you work on the last framework you’re good? Is it a developer issue or the industry is being fucked up by hiring managers or recruiters ignoring portable developers Knowledge and just caring for how many years you’ve used $nextCoolFramework?

lvl102 4y ago
Might have to do with the fact that front end space is inundated with “frameworks” and superfluous versioning. At the same time why bother sticking with a framework that’s going to be outdated in two years because the development team moved on to something else entirely?
smoe 4y ago
From my experience hiring and mentoring, I reckon a lot has to do with how (overly) complex stacks for web application development have gotten. Thus people often having to learn in a very top down way, learning the very high level tools first and have little understanding of what lies beneath. There is also at least the perception that there are a ton of those high level things you need to understand for being a "fullstack" dev and it is also this top layer that actually moves fast, whereas the fundamentals move in a much more glacial manner. People chasing changes and additions instead of deepening their knowledge. If I compare that to my own experience learning web dev in the early 2000s on my own. Make a html file with some css and ftp it up to a server. First version done. Add some JS, some PHP, then a database. Eventually move from vanilla code to different frameworks and languages, move from a Linux box to some cloud services, slowly start working with more complex systems and different paradigms. The whole process was very iterative and I feel I have gotten a lot of transferable knowledge on the way. Of course this is perfectly possible to do these days as well, but it is not what I see happening or being widely encouraged in communities or fostered within companies. It seems more about run this and that generator script, click this button to spin up the managed services to run it on. See, it is so easy, so no problem. Creating hundreds of dependencies and layers of abstraction with practically no idea what they do. I had people wanting to learn programming from zero asking me to help with issues with their docker setup before having written a nested for loop. I'm definitely not against those "modern" tools, they can be an awesome productivity boost if used well in the right context, but I can't help but often feel reminded of the good old Jurassic Park quote when it comes to tech stack decision making: "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"

candiddevmike 4y ago

Just because a company is using technologies you love doesn't mean you'll be using technologies you love if you work there. We use Go! (On one service (that's really a proof of concept (our main stack is ASP.NET)))

epolanski 4y ago
This. My younger and naive self used to over value the tech stack of a company, nowadays I don't care, there's way more important issues than the specific tech stack chosen like people, organization and processes. A strong engineering team pushes for meaningful and well organized requirements collection and encoding, documentation of the business domain, values (meaningful) testing and is strongly oriented towards providing the best developer experience possible. Languages and libraries do play a part in developer experience and satisfaction, but they are generally way less important.
- Existenceblinks 4y ago
  But often times they use inappropriate tools for solving problems.
milansm 4y ago
If I'm a Go developer, or changing jobs because I want to use Go, of course that it is in both mine and my future employer's best interest to set expectations if I'm gonna work on Go or on ASP.NET.
- candiddevmike 4y ago
  "sure milansm, you'll work on Go code. we just need to support this ASP.NET codebase for a little bit and then you can lead our migration to Go. I promise.". In this market, employers are saying anything to get folks in the door. They're scrambling for workers, and a lot of times it's because their codebase is shit and folks are leaving in droves, so they dangle carrots to get folks to support their decaying crap.

eatonphil 4y ago

I run a Discord community [0] around software internals for folks interested in hacking on databases, compilers, browsers, emulators, etc. There's a jobs channel there where folks post jobs on these topics there. If you've got these kinds of software internals jobs you're welcome to join and share. If you're looking for these kinds of jobs you're welcome to join and browse. Unlike OP's site this isn't tied to particular technology/languages/frameworms but tied to particular interesting topics. [0] discord.multiprocess.io

jack335 4y ago

Cool! Would be nice if you could support Remote jobs as location as well :)

flynniec6 4y ago

Spain, Munster, Ireland This seems a little wrong as a region.

jasfi 4y ago

I work a lot with Nim, for my own projects. There aren't many jobs out there for Nim just yet. I'm going to release some of tech I've built as Open Source (https://nexusdev.tools/ https://nexusdev.tools/). With any luck that will help to build up the Nim community, which in turn could help jump-start the Nim job market. DocUI, the back-end SDK that uses Flutter for the front-end, is actually multi-language on the back-end. But I also have a back-end web-framework built on top of Jester that handles user management. Another example is an ORM that generates Nim data access files (which is Postgres only at the moment, but other DBs could be added).

kvgr 4y ago

Nice tool, the search could some tuning. When i Type Android -> pure android is on the bottom. When i Type London, London England is at the bottom.

dwighttk 4y ago

Type Raleigh or Durham or North Carolina into the region selector and it gives bad or no results, but navigate over NC on the map and there are jobs listed

rjmill 4y ago
Yeah, I'm not going to assume Raleigh, NC is more important than all the other Raleighs in the world. But it is bizarre that I can get Fort Raleigh City, NC and not the actual capital of the state. Pretty neat tool, but the region search needs work.
- dwighttk 4y ago
  Not necessarily that it is more important, but it isn’t there at all.

bitwize 4y ago

So I searched for Lisp jobs near Boston. Nothing. I changed the search to "Common Lisp" and got a few hits. But they were all just places with "Common" in the name, like Revere Hotel Boston Common. I know there are companies in the area that use Common Lisp, Google/ITA being the primary but not only one. Lisp jobs are rare, but not that rare. Sorry, but this looks like it's a "maybe someday, but not today" project.

taylodl 4y ago

I feel like this is completely backwards. To me this feels like 'I love using this kind of hammer so let me find all the jobs where I can use this hammer I love to use.' I'm actually not interested (at least not primarily interested) in that. I'm more interested in what are you building? What problems are you solving? I'd rather search by that and then see what their tech stack looks like and filter down to the ones matching my interests and the tools I like using. Heck, there may be a company that I'm really interested in what they're doing but I may not have a lot of experience with their particular technology set. I could reach out to them and express my interest in what they're doing and see if it might make sense for me to join them. Focusing on technology feels like putting the cart before the horse.

lkxijlewlf 4y ago
> I feel like this is completely backwards. To me this feels like 'I love using this kind of hammer so let me find all the jobs where I can use this hammer I love to use.' I'm actually not interested (at least not primarily interested) in that. I'm more interested in what are you building? What problems are you solving? Same for me. I can learn whatever tech stack you're using (if need be). I want to know about your business, your product, your future.
- Existenceblinks 4y ago
  But tech stack requirements sit right there in job descriptions. It's about matching.
  - taylodl 4y ago
    Yes they do, but the question is should they? What role should they be playing?
    - Existenceblinks 4y ago
      They shouldn't, though they have few choices. They don't want to admit they chose the wrong tools for the problems, and can we disagree with them .. generally.

codingdave 4y ago

I am not sure where this data is coming from. I live out in the country, 15 minutes from a town of 2000 people, an hour from any real tech jobs. And there are results near me. From places like CyberCoders - almost as if other remote software folks just had a job through them once so their home address shows in the database. I suspect there is some serious validation needed of this data set before it will be useful.

chris_overseas 4y ago

I like the idea but it seems rather US-centric currently. I'm finding it almost impossible to filter by London, UK - a whole load of other locations containing 'London' across the US show up instead. Similarly, trying to reposition the map to London requires a lot of scrolling of the map, because I can't zoom out far enough to see enough of the globe. As it stands it's very difficult for me to use unfortunately, but hopefully it won't be too hard to improve the UX for an international audience.

TheMerovingian 4y ago
Likewise, looking for C jobs in Waterloo, Canada shunts me over to Austin, TX for some reason.

deleted 4y ago

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sbmthakur 4y ago

Not sure how but I managed to land on a URL with an 'undefined' param. https://techmap.io/*/undefined https://techmap.io/*/undefined

dang 4y ago

Related Techmap: Find companies using technologies you love - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28897492 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28897492 - Oct 2021 (47 comments)