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Italian Wikipedia shut down
Today, unfortunately, the very pillars on which Wikipedia has been built - neutrality, freedom, and verifiability of its contents - are likely to be heavily compromised by paragraph 29 of a law proposal, also known as "DDL intercettazioni" (Wiretapping Act).
This proposal, which the Italian Parliament is currently debating, provides, among other things, a requirement to all websites to publish, within 48 hours of the request and without any comment, a correction of any content that the applicant deems detrimental to his/her image.
Unfortunately, the law does not require an evaluation of the claim by an impartial third judge - the opinion of the person allegedly injured is all that is required, in order to impose such correction to any website.
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Comunicato_4_ottobre_2011
- kidmenot 15y agoIt's working, now.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoWikipedia, or the Italian government?
- kidmenot 15y agoHehe, wikipedia, of course. The only way to fix the Italian government would be the equivalent of a 'make mrproper', so to speak.
- sliverstorm 15y agoI prefer 'dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda'
- kidmenot 15y agoWhatever you want, as long as it works. Personally, I think that some kind of 'civil disorder' will happen sometime in the not-so-far future. Not that I would like it, but I fear it's inevitable if things keep getting worse like they're doing now (and have constantly been doing for the past decades).
- ErrantX 15y agoThe government appear to have caved :)
- kragen 15y ago[citation needed] — the Italian Wikipedia still says, "Sono stati proposti degli emendamenti, ma le modifiche al disegno di legge non sono ancora state approvate in via definitiva."
- ErrantX 15y agohttp://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-October/069409.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-Octob... Modifications have been accepted to the proposal; although it still has to go through parliament.
- ars 15y agoPrevious discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3072800 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3072800
- coldarchon 15y agoto my excuse, from the 30 topics on the first page 28 were about Steve Jobs, on the following pages it was similar ..
- fbnt 15y agoThe situation here is getting more and more anachronistic each day, they are this close to make me seriously angry. The country is run by a mass of greedy, corrupt, paranoid, elderly individuals with chronic sexual disorders who completely lost touch with reality. And the italian equivalent of 'joe the plumber' isn't that much of a good person either. I can trust no one anymore. I don't really know how to deal with all this. Maybe we should outsource our parliament. We should really hire people from other countries to do the job. Don't worry, the pay is really good, the weather is fine, and you'll always have good food for lunch. Sit in our parliament, you make the laws that helps us grow as a decent developed country while making sure that the justice system works well, and we'll follow them.
- klez 15y ago+1 for the outsourcing proposal. On a side note, it strikes me that Americans call 'administration' what we call 'governement'... It speaks a lot about how our politicians see themselves...
- jbooth 15y agoThat's just a side-effect of presidential vs parliamentary executive bodies. Presidents have 4 year administrations, parliamentary majorities have x-year coalition governments.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoI proposed to a friend that maybe Italy isn't ready to be an adult country yet - it needs a foster parent to hold its hand for a little while. He recommended Germany, but I pointed out that it didn't work out quite so well last time.
- fbnt 15y agoI was thinking more about Norway, the Netherlands or some scandinavian countries.. I understand your concern with Germany, we're quite some different countries now btw :)
- juliano_q 15y agoI live in Brazil and was hired to work for a company in 2009 and they sent me for a project lasting 2 months in Rome. I was impressed about how the people in general and specially the women hated Berlusconi. And he is still there today.
- deleo 15y agoOnly the President can send him home...
- VladRussian 15y agoPutin in Russia publicly stated that Berlusconi critics are just really envious of Berlusconi (yea, one more thing i too well understand, yet not proud, about my old country)
- blackiron 15y agoThere are more represive laws in countries like venezuela and cuba.. and Wikipedia has not done anything like this there. Oh i forgot, everything a leftist government does is OK.