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it may grow, however isnt it because of lot of BS work like maintain our webpage or ancient billing SW, glue stuff together for our "startup"?

NicoJuicy 5y ago
Being responsible for your work includes maintaining legacy code. And more importantly, when required code that ain't yours, plenty of people that don't do and don't like it unfortunately. But it's useful to know which mistakes were made so you don't need to repeat them.
gregjor 5y ago
BS stuff like getting paid a lot of money to write code? Your BS may be my bread and butter. It’s possible some segment of programmers will obsolete themselves by calling actual business requirements BS, or insisting that they will only work in Clojure on new development with a custom standing desk from home and never have to attend a meeting or engage with the rest of the company. But the work is there, more of it every day, and it’s only boring BS if you perceive it that way.
- travisporter 5y ago
  Same boat as you very grateful for my job but pwrent may have a point that such old systems may be phased out.
- iExploder 5y ago
  BS jobs must be automated or deprecated. you may find a short term security in being a doorman for someone but for both of our sake I hope soon we will be freed from such toil.
  - ChrisLTD 5y ago
    You can find dignity in all kinds of work. You may not want to be a doorman, but someone else might love it.
  - rayiner 5y ago
    LOL. My GPS recently tried to route my car through a pedestrian-only plaza on GWU campus. I don’t think it’s been open to vehicles for 30 years. We have no prospect at this time (without some unexpected and unpredictable breakthrough in science) of automating even simple programming jobs.
  - gregjor 5y ago
    Working on legacy code, doing work that isn’t the fad of the month, is not the same as a BS job. That kind of work is the least likely to get automated or deprecated. Right now data science and ML are increasingly automated and commoditized. Cookie-cutter web sites are easy to build with SAAS off-the-shelf. It’s the niche custom domains and legacy code maintenance that are not commodity work or the target of “no-code/low-code” tools.

NicoJuicy 5y ago

Being responsible for your work includes maintaining legacy code. And more importantly, when required code that ain't yours, plenty of people that don't do and don't like it unfortunately. But it's useful to know which mistakes were made so you don't need to repeat them.

gregjor 5y ago

BS stuff like getting paid a lot of money to write code? Your BS may be my bread and butter. It’s possible some segment of programmers will obsolete themselves by calling actual business requirements BS, or insisting that they will only work in Clojure on new development with a custom standing desk from home and never have to attend a meeting or engage with the rest of the company. But the work is there, more of it every day, and it’s only boring BS if you perceive it that way.

travisporter 5y ago
Same boat as you very grateful for my job but pwrent may have a point that such old systems may be phased out.
iExploder 5y ago
BS jobs must be automated or deprecated. you may find a short term security in being a doorman for someone but for both of our sake I hope soon we will be freed from such toil.
- ChrisLTD 5y ago
  You can find dignity in all kinds of work. You may not want to be a doorman, but someone else might love it.
- rayiner 5y ago
  LOL. My GPS recently tried to route my car through a pedestrian-only plaza on GWU campus. I don’t think it’s been open to vehicles for 30 years. We have no prospect at this time (without some unexpected and unpredictable breakthrough in science) of automating even simple programming jobs.
- gregjor 5y ago
  Working on legacy code, doing work that isn’t the fad of the month, is not the same as a BS job. That kind of work is the least likely to get automated or deprecated. Right now data science and ML are increasingly automated and commoditized. Cookie-cutter web sites are easy to build with SAAS off-the-shelf. It’s the niche custom domains and legacy code maintenance that are not commodity work or the target of “no-code/low-code” tools.