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Still going to mask up when going indoors. I don't want the flu, I don't want a cold and I don't want to get covid.

by westondeboer 5y ago

vinyl7 5y ago
Great way to destroy your immune system
- JaimeThompson 5y ago
  I would love to see research that shows that to be a correct statement and why so many in Asian countries do not seem to have compromised immune systems would be interesting as well.
  - notch656a 5y ago
    'Asia' is a big place and it's a pretty bigoted statement to allude 'asia' hygiene/exposure standards exceed those of the reader.
    - JaimeThompson 5y ago
      How is that a bigoted statement? This is but one source to support that people in Asia wear masks at a high rate. [1] [2] [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3536629/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3536629/ [2] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culture-shocked/202005/why-was-mask-wearing-popular-in-asia-even-covid-19 https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culture-shocked/2020...
      - notch656a 5y ago
        I could have misinterpreted the up-thread comment, but I read it as they were saying that the immune system can degrade its available response to certain pathogens when the immune system goes without adequate exposure to those pathogens. The wearing of the mask is just one piece in this puzzle. Hygiene and sanitary practices vary widely across Asia. It could be that wearing a mask degrades maintenance of the immune system, but other sanitary practices in Asia result in the opportunity for the immune system to maintain vigilance. That is, it could be the immune system maintains itself in spite of the masks, rather than the mask having no effect or positive effect on immune system.
  - TacticalCoder 5y ago
    In Japan, before Covid, people did sometimes use masks but that wasn't the majority. Very far from it. If I'm not mistaken it is people who know they are sick that would wear a mask to protect others. That still doesn't work for people unknowingly carrying a virus. And most people are unmasked: so they're still exposed to at least some pathogens. So I don't see why they'd have a compromised immune system.
- terminatornet 5y ago
  an even greater way to destroy your immune system? dying from covid!
  - notch656a 5y ago
    Or I don't die from covid, and my toddler has lifelong slight disadvantage in language acquisition due to hysteria.
    - terminatornet 5y ago
      good point, many asian countries (where public masking has been commonplace well before covid) have notoriously terrible students and learning issues.
      - notch656a 5y ago
        You don't see any issues at all with those in their most neuroplastic language development years being unable to see a face while they are acquiring their native language? I'm not interested in some bigoted conversation suggesting those in asian countries are somehow inherently superior at learning. I never wear a mask when I'm with my toddler, even in public. I'd rather suffer whatever bad effects that bring me than risk lifelong language issues.
        terminatornet 5y ago
        Do blind people have trouble speaking because they can't see faces?
        RobertMiller 5y ago
        When they are blind before they learn to speak, yes. Specialized instruction can mitigate this.
_dain_ 5y ago
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't be a jerk to your fellow community members. It's against the site guidelines, and leads to much worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Still going to mask up when going indoors. I don't want the flu, I don't want a cold and I don't want to get covid.

vinyl7 5y ago

Great way to destroy your immune system

JaimeThompson 5y ago
I would love to see research that shows that to be a correct statement and why so many in Asian countries do not seem to have compromised immune systems would be interesting as well.
- notch656a 5y ago
  'Asia' is a big place and it's a pretty bigoted statement to allude 'asia' hygiene/exposure standards exceed those of the reader.
  - JaimeThompson 5y ago
    How is that a bigoted statement? This is but one source to support that people in Asia wear masks at a high rate. [1] [2] [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3536629/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3536629/ [2] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culture-shocked/202005/why-was-mask-wearing-popular-in-asia-even-covid-19 https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culture-shocked/2020...
    - notch656a 5y ago
      I could have misinterpreted the up-thread comment, but I read it as they were saying that the immune system can degrade its available response to certain pathogens when the immune system goes without adequate exposure to those pathogens. The wearing of the mask is just one piece in this puzzle. Hygiene and sanitary practices vary widely across Asia. It could be that wearing a mask degrades maintenance of the immune system, but other sanitary practices in Asia result in the opportunity for the immune system to maintain vigilance. That is, it could be the immune system maintains itself in spite of the masks, rather than the mask having no effect or positive effect on immune system.
- TacticalCoder 5y ago
  In Japan, before Covid, people did sometimes use masks but that wasn't the majority. Very far from it. If I'm not mistaken it is people who know they are sick that would wear a mask to protect others. That still doesn't work for people unknowingly carrying a virus. And most people are unmasked: so they're still exposed to at least some pathogens. So I don't see why they'd have a compromised immune system.
terminatornet 5y ago
an even greater way to destroy your immune system? dying from covid!
- notch656a 5y ago
  Or I don't die from covid, and my toddler has lifelong slight disadvantage in language acquisition due to hysteria.
  - terminatornet 5y ago
    good point, many asian countries (where public masking has been commonplace well before covid) have notoriously terrible students and learning issues.
    - notch656a 5y ago
      You don't see any issues at all with those in their most neuroplastic language development years being unable to see a face while they are acquiring their native language? I'm not interested in some bigoted conversation suggesting those in asian countries are somehow inherently superior at learning. I never wear a mask when I'm with my toddler, even in public. I'd rather suffer whatever bad effects that bring me than risk lifelong language issues.
      - terminatornet 5y ago
        Do blind people have trouble speaking because they can't see faces?
        RobertMiller 5y ago
        When they are blind before they learn to speak, yes. Specialized instruction can mitigate this.

_dain_ 5y ago

dang 5y ago
Please don't be a jerk to your fellow community members. It's against the site guidelines, and leads to much worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html