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> Nobody is being banned for dissent, they're having incorrect claims challenged and removed from sources like Wikipedia Dissent is disagreement. People are in

by _dh54 5y ago

> Nobody is being banned for dissent, they're having incorrect claims challenged and removed from sources like Wikipedia Dissent is disagreement. People are in fact and explicitly being banned for disagreeing with the official information on COVID vaccines. Science is always changing and dissent is necessary to advancing our understanding of the world, whether it ends up being correct or not. When you ban people for “misinformation” you are impeding the scientific process.

acdha 5y ago
It is still the case that nobody is getting banned for simple dissent. Malone knowingly lied about safety, making claims he knew were untrue at the time he made them and continued to do so. Had he simply said “I don’t agree with this” his account would still be active like all of the other people who do this. Twitter is also not the scientific process. If he wanted to go back to holding himself up to the standards of a scientist, that would involve doing actual research or participating in the community processes - for example, I’m sure his reputation is enough that he’d have no trouble submitting a letter or meta-analysis to any journal and having it be read. He’s chosen not to do that because he knows that these claims won’t pass muster.
- CyberRabbi 5y ago
  > Malone knowingly lied about safety, making claims he knew were untrue at the time he made them and continued to do so. What is your source for this? Aren’t you assuming bad faith? Regardless I think you are missing the point. Dissent by definition will not have to conform to your worldview or notions of what is true or who is considered a scientist. If you only allow things which your worldview considers true, that is not real dissent. Twitter does not permit real dissent on their platform. There was a time when the claims Galileo was making about the sun were not considered true nor were they acknowledged by scientists. Really consider that. > Had he simply said “I don’t agree with this” his account would still be active like all of the other people who do this. No, if I tweeted “I do not agree that the vaccines are safe enough.” I would get banned. How do I know this? Because I tweeted this and I was banned from Twitter. You’re not being honest.

by _dh54 5y ago

acdha 5y ago

It is still the case that nobody is getting banned for simple dissent. Malone knowingly lied about safety, making claims he knew were untrue at the time he made them and continued to do so. Had he simply said “I don’t agree with this” his account would still be active like all of the other people who do this. Twitter is also not the scientific process. If he wanted to go back to holding himself up to the standards of a scientist, that would involve doing actual research or participating in the community processes - for example, I’m sure his reputation is enough that he’d have no trouble submitting a letter or meta-analysis to any journal and having it be read. He’s chosen not to do that because he knows that these claims won’t pass muster.

CyberRabbi 5y ago
> Malone knowingly lied about safety, making claims he knew were untrue at the time he made them and continued to do so. What is your source for this? Aren’t you assuming bad faith? Regardless I think you are missing the point. Dissent by definition will not have to conform to your worldview or notions of what is true or who is considered a scientist. If you only allow things which your worldview considers true, that is not real dissent. Twitter does not permit real dissent on their platform. There was a time when the claims Galileo was making about the sun were not considered true nor were they acknowledged by scientists. Really consider that. > Had he simply said “I don’t agree with this” his account would still be active like all of the other people who do this. No, if I tweeted “I do not agree that the vaccines are safe enough.” I would get banned. How do I know this? Because I tweeted this and I was banned from Twitter. You’re not being honest.