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It is important to note that the gas exported to China and Europe are exported from different fields, and are not connected with each other. As it stands right

It is important to note that the gas exported to China and Europe are exported from different fields, and are not connected with each other. As it stands right now, Russia cannot export the gas it produces for Europe to China.

tpm 5y ago
And China interestingly does not want Russia to build the pipeline that would enable that.
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
Yes it can, it just takes longer to put it in ships or trains. Transport by ship from where NordStream would leave the land to China is becoming feasible now that the north pole is melting, and Russia is really interested in that. A good, seemingly unbiased video on the subject is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy9usF7ohE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy9usF7ohE
- koenneker 5y ago
  I don't know about the trains but looking at shipping: -Nordstream 2 has a capacity to transport 55 billion cubic meters per year[1] -The biggest LNG transport ship "Mozah" built by Samsung Heavy Industries can transport a equivalent of ~162 million cubic meters in a single load This leads to a ~339,5 full loads per year needed to replace the pipeline volume. Nordstream 2 probably wouldn't run at full capacity initially but even at 50% utilisation it would be nearly impossibe to replace it with shipping. [1]https://www.gazprom.com/projects/nord-stream2/ https://www.gazprom.com/projects/nord-stream2/ [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozah
  - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
    They don't need to replace something that doesn't even exist?
    - wukerplank 5y ago
      Nord Stream 2 was finished last year, it just isn't used yet.
      - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
        Sure, but the income stream (or gas output stream) doesn't exist yet.
- Xylakant 5y ago
  Putting gas on a ship where nordstream leaves land makes no sense at all if you want to ship to china. You’d have to navigate all of the Baltic Sea and then go all the way around either Scandinavia and Russia or via the Mediterranean. You’d also need to build a liquefaction plant to transport gas via train or ship efficiently. If you’d invest in that kind of infrastructure, build it somewhere more suitable.
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tpm 5y ago

And China interestingly does not want Russia to build the pipeline that would enable that.

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

Yes it can, it just takes longer to put it in ships or trains. Transport by ship from where NordStream would leave the land to China is becoming feasible now that the north pole is melting, and Russia is really interested in that. A good, seemingly unbiased video on the subject is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy9usF7ohE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy9usF7ohE

koenneker 5y ago
I don't know about the trains but looking at shipping: -Nordstream 2 has a capacity to transport 55 billion cubic meters per year[1] -The biggest LNG transport ship "Mozah" built by Samsung Heavy Industries can transport a equivalent of ~162 million cubic meters in a single load This leads to a ~339,5 full loads per year needed to replace the pipeline volume. Nordstream 2 probably wouldn't run at full capacity initially but even at 50% utilisation it would be nearly impossibe to replace it with shipping. [1]https://www.gazprom.com/projects/nord-stream2/ https://www.gazprom.com/projects/nord-stream2/ [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozah
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
  They don't need to replace something that doesn't even exist?
  - wukerplank 5y ago
    Nord Stream 2 was finished last year, it just isn't used yet.
    - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
      Sure, but the income stream (or gas output stream) doesn't exist yet.
Xylakant 5y ago
Putting gas on a ship where nordstream leaves land makes no sense at all if you want to ship to china. You’d have to navigate all of the Baltic Sea and then go all the way around either Scandinavia and Russia or via the Mediterranean. You’d also need to build a liquefaction plant to transport gas via train or ship efficiently. If you’d invest in that kind of infrastructure, build it somewhere more suitable.

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