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Given all the excitement about this topic, I thought it was important to share that the emergency is over.

rbanffy 5y ago
I look forward towards the investigations about foreign interference. Should be enlightening for other countries as well.
- jevoten 5y ago
  Is this one of those cases when xenophobia is ok?
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    No. This is one of those cases where we find out a war has already started and we didn't notice because the weapons are too new. Nice try though.
    - frabbit 5y ago
      Do you think Gretchen Whitmer told Trudeau what to do again?
      - frabbit 5y ago
        In case anyone did not catch this: ""Resolve this:" Gov. Whitmer calls on Canadian government to reopen Ambassador Bridge" https://wwmt.com/news/state/resolve-this-gov-whitmer-calls-on-canadian-government-to-reopen-ambassador-bridge https://wwmt.com/news/state/resolve-this-gov-whitmer-calls-o... A shaming moment for Canada.
    - jquery 5y ago
      We’re absolutely already at war. Our institutions are being used against us. However, we are resilient. Anecdotally, I admit to falling for Russian disinfo in the past. Mea culpa. Now I’m a lot more wary and open eyed about how this stuff is generated and spread. I think every day, a number of adults learn for the first time they were duped by online misinformation, and will take steps to prevent it in the future. Hopefully this process happens faster than our enemy is able to deceive us.
      - frabbit 5y ago
        Just so that we`re absolutely clear on what you are saying: you think that this protest is something started by the Russians somehow?
fgahll 5y ago
There was no emergency, just a huge annoyance that could have been cleared without dictatorial powers.
- mmastrac 5y ago
  It was pretty clear during the protest that the Ottawa police were unable or unwilling to tackle the protest. Given the breakdown in the ability to restore order, most Canadians agree that the emergency was warranted. Using the phrase "dictatorial powers" to describe a bill explicitly designed to balance rights and forward action is incindiary language.
  - frabbit 5y ago
    Calling someone's opinions incendiary is incendiary.
  - s1artibartfast 5y ago
    >Ottawa police were unable or unwilling to tackle the protest I have yet to hear a plausible explanation for why this was. I am very uncomfortable with the idea that the police declining to do their job is sufficient to emergency powers. There should be proportionate responses to illegal behavior. Not even attempting to regulate illegal behavior with the appropriate government response should not be a justification for more severe government response.
    - landemva 5y ago
      Local police sympathized based on their knowledge of living there. Outside police were brought in because they can abuse the people and then leave and not worry about being shamed. They needed non-locals to do the dirty work.

I look forward towards the investigations about foreign interference. Should be enlightening for other countries as well.

jevoten 5y ago
Is this one of those cases when xenophobia is ok?
- rbanffy 5y ago
  No. This is one of those cases where we find out a war has already started and we didn't notice because the weapons are too new. Nice try though.
  - frabbit 5y ago
    Do you think Gretchen Whitmer told Trudeau what to do again?
    - frabbit 5y ago
      In case anyone did not catch this: ""Resolve this:" Gov. Whitmer calls on Canadian government to reopen Ambassador Bridge" https://wwmt.com/news/state/resolve-this-gov-whitmer-calls-on-canadian-government-to-reopen-ambassador-bridge https://wwmt.com/news/state/resolve-this-gov-whitmer-calls-o... A shaming moment for Canada.
  - jquery 5y ago
    We’re absolutely already at war. Our institutions are being used against us. However, we are resilient. Anecdotally, I admit to falling for Russian disinfo in the past. Mea culpa. Now I’m a lot more wary and open eyed about how this stuff is generated and spread. I think every day, a number of adults learn for the first time they were duped by online misinformation, and will take steps to prevent it in the future. Hopefully this process happens faster than our enemy is able to deceive us.
    - frabbit 5y ago
      Just so that we`re absolutely clear on what you are saying: you think that this protest is something started by the Russians somehow?

fgahll 5y ago

There was no emergency, just a huge annoyance that could have been cleared without dictatorial powers.

mmastrac 5y ago
It was pretty clear during the protest that the Ottawa police were unable or unwilling to tackle the protest. Given the breakdown in the ability to restore order, most Canadians agree that the emergency was warranted. Using the phrase "dictatorial powers" to describe a bill explicitly designed to balance rights and forward action is incindiary language.
- frabbit 5y ago
  Calling someone's opinions incendiary is incendiary.
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  >Ottawa police were unable or unwilling to tackle the protest I have yet to hear a plausible explanation for why this was. I am very uncomfortable with the idea that the police declining to do their job is sufficient to emergency powers. There should be proportionate responses to illegal behavior. Not even attempting to regulate illegal behavior with the appropriate government response should not be a justification for more severe government response.
  - landemva 5y ago
    Local police sympathized based on their knowledge of living there. Outside police were brought in because they can abuse the people and then leave and not worry about being shamed. They needed non-locals to do the dirty work.