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Democracy is when foreign far right groups participate in and fund a domestic protest where people demand the resignation of elected officials, got it.

lelanthran 5y ago
> Democracy is when foreign far right groups participate in and fund a domestic protest where people demand the resignation of elected officials, got it. Well, yeah. Whether the protesters are misinformed or not is irrelevant, they are seeking to highlight their grievances. You can't very well claim that people should only be able to highlight grievances that they personally, individually and without any external influence ... came up with themselves. A grievance is still a grievance even if it was brought to the protestor's attention by a foreign power, by a local politician, by their neighbour or by the invisible green elves who live at the bottom of the protestor's garden. 1. You don't get to gatekeep that a grievance is valid only if it comes from the right[1]. 2. You don't get to gatekeep that any and all grievances from the left[1] are automatically invalid. 3. You don't get to gatekeep that some things are legitimate grievances and others are not. If 1000 verified working-class people with jobs are literally peacefully protesting, maybe you shouldn't be feeling threatened? [1] Switch the words 'left' and 'right' in this comment; the point is the same.
Dma54rhs 5y ago
It's the same thinking Putin is using to shut down groups that fight for democracy. Every new idea is foreign and "funded" by foreign actors, its part of the liberal democracy spreading its ideas playbook.
yonaguska 5y ago
I hate to say what about, but BLM raised millions of dollars of money, with no restrictions on where it was from- and ActBlue managed donations, which would have been a very illegal thing according to our political campaign donation laws. But even our AG's and circuit judges are picking political sides. Democracy...

lelanthran 5y ago

> Democracy is when foreign far right groups participate in and fund a domestic protest where people demand the resignation of elected officials, got it. Well, yeah. Whether the protesters are misinformed or not is irrelevant, they are seeking to highlight their grievances. You can't very well claim that people should only be able to highlight grievances that they personally, individually and without any external influence ... came up with themselves. A grievance is still a grievance even if it was brought to the protestor's attention by a foreign power, by a local politician, by their neighbour or by the invisible green elves who live at the bottom of the protestor's garden. 1. You don't get to gatekeep that a grievance is valid only if it comes from the right[1]. 2. You don't get to gatekeep that any and all grievances from the left[1] are automatically invalid. 3. You don't get to gatekeep that some things are legitimate grievances and others are not. If 1000 verified working-class people with jobs are literally peacefully protesting, maybe you shouldn't be feeling threatened? [1] Switch the words 'left' and 'right' in this comment; the point is the same.

Dma54rhs 5y ago

It's the same thinking Putin is using to shut down groups that fight for democracy. Every new idea is foreign and "funded" by foreign actors, its part of the liberal democracy spreading its ideas playbook.

yonaguska 5y ago

I hate to say what about, but BLM raised millions of dollars of money, with no restrictions on where it was from- and ActBlue managed donations, which would have been a very illegal thing according to our political campaign donation laws. But even our AG's and circuit judges are picking political sides. Democracy...