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Judging from his book, Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman, he was not a very modest person himself, with regard to his own accomplishments and ideas, maybe that'

by elb2020 5y ago

Judging from his book, Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman, he was not a very modest person himself, with regard to his own accomplishments and ideas, maybe that's why he was shocked by the modesty and restraint of other men with (presumably) similarly great talents.

vixen99 5y ago
Doesn't it depend on whether you feel he had a substantially realistic view as to his talents or not? Few would disagree that he was correct on that score. Moreover Feynman told a number of stories against himself - of how he turned out to be quite wrong about something. We may agree that false modesty is not much better than hyping one's non-existent qualities.
dhbradshaw 5y ago
I think you have to distinguish between being socially humble and being humble about truth. Feynman was humble in that he tried to learn what was true instead of assuming that he already knew. He was always looking to improve his understanding. Being humble in the search for truth can sometimes even seem arrogant socially. It means that you'll regularly question not only your own beliefs but those of other people as well.
- dralley 5y ago
  >Being humble in the search for truth can sometimes even seem arrogant socially. It means that you'll regularly question not only your own beliefs but those of other people as well. Although according to Murray Gell-Mann, Feynman might have gone a bit too far in that regard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnMsgxIIQEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnMsgxIIQEE
mrjangles 5y ago
for some reason, a great many people on the internet don't seem to understand that it is not "his book". It was written after his death by his friend.
- pacman128 5y ago
  It was published 3 years before his death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surely_You%27re_Joking,_Mr._Feynman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surely_You%27re_Joking,_Mr._Fe...!
  - mrjangles 5y ago
    Oh wow my mistake. Yes it is actually the sequel "what do you care what other people think" that was written after his death. Yeah knowing he wrote it, I guess it does come off a little more egotistical than I at first assumed. Still a good book though.

vixen99 5y ago

Doesn't it depend on whether you feel he had a substantially realistic view as to his talents or not? Few would disagree that he was correct on that score. Moreover Feynman told a number of stories against himself - of how he turned out to be quite wrong about something. We may agree that false modesty is not much better than hyping one's non-existent qualities.

dhbradshaw 5y ago

I think you have to distinguish between being socially humble and being humble about truth. Feynman was humble in that he tried to learn what was true instead of assuming that he already knew. He was always looking to improve his understanding. Being humble in the search for truth can sometimes even seem arrogant socially. It means that you'll regularly question not only your own beliefs but those of other people as well.

dralley 5y ago
>Being humble in the search for truth can sometimes even seem arrogant socially. It means that you'll regularly question not only your own beliefs but those of other people as well. Although according to Murray Gell-Mann, Feynman might have gone a bit too far in that regard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnMsgxIIQEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnMsgxIIQEE

mrjangles 5y ago

for some reason, a great many people on the internet don't seem to understand that it is not "his book". It was written after his death by his friend.

pacman128 5y ago
It was published 3 years before his death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surely_You%27re_Joking,_Mr._Feynman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surely_You%27re_Joking,_Mr._Fe...!
- mrjangles 5y ago
  Oh wow my mistake. Yes it is actually the sequel "what do you care what other people think" that was written after his death. Yeah knowing he wrote it, I guess it does come off a little more egotistical than I at first assumed. Still a good book though.